Points to whoever gives me the correct Thelemic (no not the simplified, all in one Wiccan version!) response and if more that one correct answer then I will give the points to whoever can give me their understanding of the implications of response...
2007-08-02 16:59:02 · 11 answers · asked by Tirant 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
You are right Praireycrow - will is here used as the Greek "Thelema" and has a much deeper meaning than our modern common use...
I have nothing against the Wiccan rede, (I think Gardner was a great fellow!) just seeing who out there remembers the older version...
2007-08-02 17:11:01 · update #1
Don't worry Abdan-Noor, I'm sure Uncle Al understands you don't like him... He wasn't exactly a nice guy! (unlike Uncle Gerald, who by all accounts was a lovely fellow) He did seem to live a long live for someone who took that many drugs though!!!
2007-08-02 17:17:22 · update #2
Love is the Law, Love Under Will
... prariecrow beats me to the good questions yet again lol
Based from the Book of the Law by Alesiter Crowley, given to him by a spiritual entity who was a servant of Ra Hoor Kuit in Cairo in 1904.
Book of the Law, Chapter I, Verse 40
Who calls us Thelemites will do no wrong, if he look but close into the word. For there are therein Three Grades, the Hermit, and the Lover, and the man of Earth. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
Chapter I, Verse 57
Invoke me under my stars! Love is the law, love under will. Nor let the fools mistake love; for there are love and love. There is the dove, and there is the serpent. Choose ye well! He, my prophet, hath chosen, knowing the law of the fortress, and the great mystery of the House of God.
The basic meaning of the greetings, I approach you with love, respect your will, and expect the same respect returned by you. Unlike what some people say, I think Thelema is a great belief, and has one of the best moral/ethical system ever invented.
As you may have guessed, I am just a little studied in Thelema lol.
2007-08-02 18:15:39 · answer #1 · answered by Lord AmonRaHa 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Wilt Meaning
2016-12-17 13:10:43 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
With the respect to the Uncle Al, one of the greatest minds in the history of the so called 'occult', imho,
act according to your will, but, don't forget the law of love for yourself and your fellow species...
As someone had already added the correct complete version, no need to repeat....
2007-08-02 17:23:05 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Do What Thou Wilt
2016-10-06 03:13:02 · answer #4 · answered by wichern 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
OK,I am not defending Uncle Al,and as a Muslim I have no affection for Thelema,But my understanding of the concept is that the Refined Will would never desire something that would bring harm to itself,and as hurting others ultimately hurts yourself,the person in touch with his or her Higher Self (the holy guardian angel to thelemites)would not will evil. that's why Wicca adds "and it harm none" to the "do what thou will".
2007-08-02 17:13:26 · answer #5 · answered by InTheGreatSatan 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
You can look that up on a variety of wiccan websites, no biggy.
What it really is, is a statement of Universal Law. Whatever you say/do will come back to you MULTIPLIED in accordance with the attitude/intent of putting it out there to begin with. Actually the ol' "Law of 3" is a misnomer. Your karma can come back multiplied 10X, 100X, 1,000X and more.
So what you need to consider when sending energy to someone (a spell, a prayer, or speech) is whether you are messing with someone else's path or free will. Naturally if you are messing with someone out of anger, with intent to do harm, that will result in that bad energy coming back to you multiplied a lot larger. You need to consider whether this other person is worth it.
2007-08-02 17:08:40 · answer #6 · answered by revsuzanne 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Love is the Law, Love under Will.
Both the problem and blessing of the Law is the use humanity makes of Love.
In the ritual of marriage love is used well.
2007-08-02 17:06:11 · answer #7 · answered by Terry 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
What do you call a man who shows signs of psychotic behavior, defecates on hotel carpets because he thinks his feces are sacred, molests children, identifies with the Anti-Christ, and dies a penniless junkie in a flophouse? If you're a Thelemite, you declare him a god and hang on every letter of his writings of course!
http://usminc.org/crowley.html
2007-08-03 09:15:57 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
"Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the Law -- love under will."
I'm pretty sure that's how it goes, anyway. I'm also fairly sure that in this case "will" doesn't mean "anything you happen to want", but instead refers to one's higher spiritual self -- one's "true" will, as it were. And the "love under will" statement indicates that one should live always according to one's highest ideals, and mindfully, not mindlessly.
2007-08-02 17:04:44 · answer #9 · answered by prairiecrow 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Fulfillment of the divine will through ontological union with the higher self?
Forgive me, I'm going from memory here.
2007-08-02 17:09:15 · answer #10 · answered by NONAME 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋