Am I the only one who did a 180 on this issue?

Question

Anybody else out there who used to sympathize till you saw what they can do?

In '86, I supported the amnesty. I might have even supported it 7 or 8 years ago. I was saying the same things many of these people are saying.

I was completely unprepared for what I eventually saw. I never would have predicted public urination in broad daylight, in front of children, graffiti everywhere, trash dropped on the ground right next to trash cans, cat-calls by 30-somethings directed at pre-teen girls, prostitutes all hours, defying police to their face, cars on blocks, 16 ppl in a 1 bdrm apt?...

The worst part is, if the press had just provided objective journalism rather than taking sides, I'd have had a much more realistic view when my area got hit.

Interested in your thoughts.

Zus... are you blind? These ARE illegal immigrants! They're proud of it! They fly flags of Latin-American countries and have Radio La Raza festooned all over their cars.

Wake the fut cup! You're set to be just as stunned as the rest of us if you don't stop playing into the hands of the press!

SlovikEddie...DITTO above!

Lorraine: If you want the truth, the proof, the heart-breaking reality, I can drive you around and show you. When you're ready, pack some clothes and email me. Until then, it's unwise to stand on false grounds.

CharlieG:
True. Definitely NOT all illegals are uneducated & il mannered but how many people is 50 million (illegals and their 'citizen' kids)? There can be many good and many, MANY bad.... and many more good, too. In other words, it's a LOT of people.

Outrageous5:

THANK YOU!!! True, they are NOT all bad! But my GAWD!! One per cent is 500,000, and that's a conservative number! You do the tour of FL, I'll do the tours for N. TX.

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Answer 1

The press does not provide objective journalism, generally. There is a political slant to the news depending upon who owns the paper or network. I read and watch different papers and channels and see how the same story is reported quite differently. Some news is liberal and some conservative. I don't have a problem with legal immigration but if you are here illegally (for whatever reason) you are trespassing. A few states have arrested people who were stopped for a traffic infraction and found to be illegally in the country. They were charged with trespassing.

Although many people who are here illegally are not criminals or slobs, the gangs, criminals and perverts are making a bad name for them all.

As for the above answer regarding overcrowding in a residence, make a phone call to the department of buildings and the fire department. There are laws governing occupancy rates. This can be done anonymously. Keep calling or emailing the agencies. Eventually someone will show up.

Answer 2

I've been aware of the mass exodus from Mexico since the
early 90's when a rental house across the street filled up with
a large group of illegals in the house, and also several willing
to live in a backyard shed. They just suddenly appeared one
day when a few left the house and others followed later. Two
white people lived there first. And continued to do so. After
watching their traffic and how the Mexicans behaved, I called
the police to ask if they knew if there was drug trafficking
going on there. And it was confirmed later by a detective,
and that they had the house under surveillance for some time.
Nothing was ever done. That group of illegals, were replaced
by others I noticed. So it was a place for them to hang out til
they had other destinations. I saw that they wore new clothes
or cleaner clothes when they left in pairs or groups of three.
It was an organized departure. The house was never raided
during the year we lived across the street. I felt unsafe to stay
any longer. But I do know I have heard thru the media and
from observation, that they will live as many as they can fit into
one room. Even if they have to sleep standing up, it appears.
They will do anything to live here and the first timers seem
shy and quiet, but the returners are more aggressive and
do act like the US owes them, and they demand it all.

Answer 3

I used to live in San Diego and found the multiculturalism quite charming. The filthy, run down, dangerous sections of california were LOVELY! The food poisoning was a great touch. The dogs running stray and filthy cats the closer to the border was a real Norman Rockwell scene. The swat team blocking off a block of barrio was also heart warming. Not be able to be understood by anyone because they spoke no english was wonderous. Being held up while a taco shop was burglarized was the highlight of that beautiful beach town. The way southern San diego mirrors Tijuana in all its corrupt, decrepit, decaying, third world glory was enlightening.

Answer 4

I agree with you. I live in Dallas. I once was very anti-racist. Then there was the monumental influx of Hispanics. I began to see the filth they leave on the streets, and the drug dealing.

Then my son and I got into the home renovation business. We hired some of them. We found that they are irresponsible, and they steal. I also found out that even the first generation Americans of them are illiterate. They do not know how to read or write. They can not add or subtract.

One day, I went to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_IQ

I wondered just what the national IQ scores for these South American countries were. I found out. People with IQ's of 80-87 will not make this a better country. They will only drag it down.

Answer 5

I am so going to get a violation for this; however, what I am going to tell you is true and correct.
1 The resentment against those who look like they came here illegally and got amnesty is going to be worse than what was felt against blacks in the post Civil War Era.
2 Unless a Chicano or other Hispanic appearing person speaks American English without any trace of an accent they and all people who have a marked non American accent are going to be regulated into minimum wage jobs.
3 If you are an American born who does not speak with out that accent then YOU HAD BETTER NEVER EVER QUIT YOUR JOB IF IT IS BETTER THAN MIN IMUM WAGE. You have become a labor serf. Tied to the only job you will ever get with or without an education.
4 The USA which has classes divided by socio-economic levels will have classes now by not skin color but by accents. Today hard work and education can make any individual upward mobile or if you are a lazy bum you can slide down the social scale. From the moment there is amnesty there will be new classes established and they will be darn hard to move between.
5 The Hispanic population is very racists as a general rule. I know because I have lived as a minority all my life in southern NM. When in High School I asked a Chicana out on a date. She said yes but her brothers and their friends beat me bloody when I came to get her.
6. The new Class system may be established not by American Citizens! Think it through the estimates run from 12 to 20 million illegals with the majority of them being Hispanic (Spanish speaking) by 7 of 10. For every one of them who get a free get out of jail card they can bring in as many as 258 relatives under the amnesty program as currently proposed. Let me see.
Best Case 12,000,000 x 258 = 3,096,000,000
Worst Case 20,000,000 x 258 = 5,160,000,000

Even if only 25% of those numbers come : 774,000,000 to a 1,290,000,000 of non Citizens who do not have our language, culture, nor have they contributed to the social services net which they will overload.
The population of American Citizens is estimated to be a little over 300,000,000! What will it do to this country to absorb at a minimum twice that number of people who do not have our culture, language, ethics, or education?
What is the impact on economics, law, culture, and who will assimilate whom?

Answer 6

One good argument against amnesty and making illegal aliens legal is their quality of life. We can't possibly allow them to stay in apartments were 16 people live in one room. For this reason alone, illegal aliens even if we made them legal have to go back to their country because there is no room for them here. Think about the quality of their life... it isn't good. Our system cannot provide for them. So... they have to go back. Even if illegal aliens were legallized, we would still have the same problems with law enforcement, drugs, prostitution, illegitimate children, trash, graffiti and public urination.

Making illegal aliens legal isn't the answer, enforcing the current immigration laws is. Report illegal immigrants is the answer. US citizen need to report illegal aliens. When the government sees that law abiding citizens are enforcing our own laws made by our own elected officials, they will have to respond. And, if Federal Government fails to address the issue, then we need to report it at the state level.

Stop complaining about illegal immigrants and start doing something about it by reporting it.

Websites are provided below. What is scary is only 423,000 illegal immigrants were repatriated to their home country in the last decade.

THERE IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPROVEMENT.

Answer 7

When I was a little kid, I was brought up with the same old "they're all nice people" rhetoric - actually believed it until I became a teenager, and noticed how many of them were flooding the state. Thought I'd ask others to see if they felt the same way, and got the same rude "you're just a racist" answers I get today from idiots on Yahoo! Answers.

Eventually, through bitterness and also through knowing the truth, I just decided to go along the path I am now.

Answer 8

I've seen white people urinate in public streets, Citizens do it too! What is your point!? Criminals are legal and illegal, We should do something about the CRIMINALS! Don't generalize! There are a few politicians that have gotten away with crimes at our expense. That is what makes me mad!
A line from a poem, “The New Colossus,” by the nineteenth-century American poet Emma Lazarus. “The New Colossus,” describing the Statue of Liberty, appears on a plaque at the base of the statue. It ends with the statue herself speaking:
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
This is America, All are welcome!

Answer 9

I never really thought much about illegal immigration. I think it has it's impacts, but I don't really know because there isn't reliable data to base my decision on. Currently, I believe it is not in our best interests to have illegal aliens here. I don't see how someone else can do "the jobs Americans won't do" and I don't see them either really contributing to our society....The graffiti everywhere, etc was all part of the US already, there's no need to make generalizations..not all illegals are that uneducated and unmannered.

Answer 10

Good point. I am sure that most of the current pro-amnesty types have never had to deal with this side of it. Or they are to young to remember how much things have changed in the last 20 years.