Al Gore and Global Warming are not the same thing!?

Question

Quit acting like they are in all global warming arguments gore comes up. Gore flies in a plane Gore is a retard. Believe that if you want to but quit acting like dissing somebody who is putting the truth out there is a valid argument! Try some scientific conclusions that disprove it or something more convincing than pretending everyone who believes in global warming worships Al Gore and you can change their mind by saying he is stupid. Most people who care about global warming don't care about gore at all

Global warming was believed far before Al Gore was born. I believed it before his movie came outand he got all the hype I agree that people blame too much on global warming but the earth is warming and we are the most likely cause so if you don't like al gore thats fine by me. i believe that lowering carbon emissions also saves money and who doesn't like money. I just want the debaters to find valid arguments to use instead of making fun of everyone who believes in it and dissing al gore

Thank you super man you are trying to descredit with science. I still don't believe you but I am glad you are using science. I won't argue with science because I can't but if you believe most of the science things you would know that global warming has caused a mass extinction before except it was cause by volcanic activity. We are producing those same gasses and it could happen again except with us being the cause. (I don't believe in the earths past science but I know it for good arguments:) )

Answer 1

It's interesting that most of the attacks on Al Gore are personal ones based on his lifestyle, businesses etc and not on the message he delivers. To my mind this is like saying 'sorry I can't refute the science so I'll have a pop at the guy instead'.

It's irrelevant what Gore says or does, if he hadn't been born global warming and climate change would still be the same reality that they are.

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PRINCESS ZELDA - Definition of (scientific) theory "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses; true in fact and theory".

ANDREW P - In the long term we're heading INTO an ice age and have been for a little over 50 million years, the warming of the last 18,000 years is an upward blip in an otherwise downward trend. We came out of the last 'ice age' 10,500 years ago. Some people think there was an 'ice age' a few hundred years ago and claim we're coming out of it now. It wasn't an ice age; it was a period of cooling which ended 200 years ago.

SUPER MAN- The earth is 4.567 billion years old but we only have 542 million years of climate data, beyond this we can only speculate as to what the climate was doing (the speculation is one of cooling). In the period for which we have data we know there have been four occasions when the world was free of ice and four occasions when ice was present - the ice ages. The coming and going of ice ages is a cycle of approx 125 million years during which time the overall trend in temperature shift is a change of 1°C per 2 million years. These cycles are natural phenomena brought about by the progression of Earth through a series of interacting solar and terrestrial cycles.

We know how global warming works and have known for over 100 years. It's perfectly comprehensible to anyone studying 9th grade science because it's such a simple physical property of the greenhouse gases that cause the planet to warm up. If the gases were bereft of this property Earth would be bitterly cold and life would not have evolved.

No-one is attempting to, or alluding to the fact that we can or even should, stop or reduce the effects of natural cycles. The concern centres on the effects humans are having outwith the natural cycles.

Earth is not going through a polar shift right now. I think you're getting confused with geomagnetic reversal (polarity switching). The last polar shift occurred about 800 million years ago and was a process that took some 20 million years.

We're overdue for a geomagnetic reversal, not that this would have much effect on climate. There have been numerous instances of polarity switching in the past but there has been no marked corresponding effect on climate.

The north-south magnetic dipole is weakening and has been for 2000 years, we can expect a reversal of polarity in the year 3 thousand and something.

SKOT302002 - Al Gore was born in 1948, global warming was hypothesised as far back as 1811 and established back in 1896 by the Swedish chemist Svante Arrhenius, long before Gore was born.

The warming of the early 20th century was less pronounced than the current warming trend.

The cooling in the middle of the 20th century was the result of Global Dimming occasioned by high levels of atmospheric pollution that masked the underlying warming trend.

There was no global cooling threat in the 1970's, if you need confirmation of this just ask someone who was around back then. Global cooling extended to a very small number of short media reports that were written by journalists, not scientists, and had no scientific backing to them at all. The notion that there was a global cooling scare in the 70's is a truly idiotic idea dreamt up by climate change skeptics who seem to overlook the fact that half the world's population were actually alive back then.

The Mediaeval Warm Period was not warmer than it is now, again this is a myth dreamt up by climate change skeptics and when asked to come up with any evidence to substantiate their claims it's strangely lacking.

And as for no scientific evidence... do you still think the world is flat?

Answer 2

You are incorrect in stating that global warming was beleived before Gore was born. There was a warming trend from 1890 to 1935 or so (more severe than the one we are in now) and then a cooling period until the late seventies. The same environmental alarmist groups that are warning of global warming were predicting the inevitable ice age and "Global Cooling" in the 60's and 70's due to the cooling trend. So when Gore was born Chicken Little had claimed an ice age was the imminent threat, not warming. But the sky,you see, is always falling. Take note that the warming trend from 1890 to 1935 took place prior to the industrial revolution's largest carbon emmissions, and the earth cooled after that period. There is no scientific evidence that Man is responsible. The medeival period was even warmer with even abundantly successful crop seasons in Greenland during the time....and they didnt even have Al Gore flying everywhere in a private jet back then.

Answer 3

Could not have said it better myself musicman. The level or arrogance on the side of the AGW group is beyond belief. They are right and anyone who says differently is shouted down or called names. The science is not settled and the solution is not known. If you look at history, man has a poor record when they try to correct a problem they do not fully understand. Ex.1 The house sparrow (Passer domesticus) introduced the the early 1850s to eradicate the growing insect problem in Central Park NY. The only problem, they eat mainly seeds. Consuming insects only when they have young to feed. EX. 2 The Indian brown mongoose(Herpestes fuscus) introduced in the early 1870s to kill all of the rats causing problems on sugar plantations. The rats were also eating native ground dwelling bird species eggs. The problem, mongoose hunt mainly during the day and rats a active at night. The mongoose will eat just about anything and has no natural predator in Hawaii. They proliferated and caused widespread destruction, including the loss of many ground dwelling native birds. More recently with the TIME magazines report of the coming ice age. I realize that the scientific community stated the ice age was a long way off and no immediate danger but there were calls for "saving" us from impending doom. One of the solutions to preventing the coming ice age was to cover the arctic polar cap with soot to absorb heat and cause melting. Imagine if we had done that in the 1970s? You first need to fully understand the causes of the recent warming. If it is natural then trying to "change " the direction could have catastrophic affects. The very fact that scientists within the field of climate science have questions and have published studies that refute the AGW stance should be cause for concern. Also, the very fact that Al Gore "misspoke" and I am being generous with that term, and has overstated his position and refuses to debate is also cause for concern. If the facts are incontrovertible why exaggerate? Why mislead? Why interpret a study that even the author said Gore's statement about the pole being "completely ice-free" was not in line with his current predictions, which are dramatic enough without being pumped up. Maslowski said his research shows 80 percent of the north polar ice will melt in the next six years, but he expects some ice to remain beyond the year 2020." The change in temperature is on a scale that is so small as to fall mostly within the margin of error. When you consider the complexity of climate and weather getting the solution wrong will be far more catastrophic than doing nothing. Lets have an honest and open debate and not a money grab.

Answer 4

The Earth has had ice ages, they were cooling periods, between them were warming periods. This has been going on for all of Earth’s 4 + - billion years. This all happened before any of the modern day technology came into being and will continue after we are gone.

The Earth is going through a pole shift right now. A pole shift is when the magnetic poles swap polarities. During pole shifts the magnetosphere is weaker and more of the Sun’s rays strike the Earth, this causes extra heating of the Earths surface, and makes global warming more pronounced.

These are natural cycles of the Earth. We puny stupid humans can no more stop or even reduce a natural cycle of the Earth, than the man in the moon. This is 9th grade science, and one would think that scientists and politicians would be better educated, but it seems that this not so, and they could remember 9th grade science class too.

This may just may be another smoke and mirrors propaganda campaign to cover our governments lies and con games. There are so many conspiracies running rampant it’s hard to tell which are real and which are just simple stupidity. The idea we can stop global warming IS stupidity at it’s highest form.

Answer 5

I do agree with you that people who are truly worried about global warming care little, or do not care at all about Al Gore. However, he was the only American politician, I saw, educating Americans and other people around the world about it. I truly believe that credit is due to Al Gore. Even though he is an idiot, we should show some kind of respect.

Answer 6

But they are. The entity once known as Al Gore has merged his conciousness with the thing we now know as Global Warming. He is now the high Chancelor of Globalness.

Answer 7

Yes, well said. Anyone who invokes Al Gore as a reason not to believe the scientific data behind anthropogenic global warming is purely in denial.

Answer 8

You do know, of course, that the people you're trying to convince don't want to be convinced? :)

Seriously. These people don't understand science-nor want to. Like Bush and his efforts at censorship of scietific work, they think that a scientific question can be settled by a political debate--and that if they discredit Gore (they won't) they somehow discredit "global warming"

They don't understand tha tGore, unlike their heros (e.g. Rush Limbaugh) simply reports what the scientific community has found--facts and evidence, no more and no less.

And all their talk--from now to eternity--will not change a single one of those facts. And that's the point--they don't want to face a reality that won't conform to their wishes.

Answer 9

What I like is that Gore and the Kennedys for example, scream global warming. We shouldn't be driving SUVs. Yet, they drive Escalades and Suburbans. We shouldn't be flying anywhere. Yet, they fly on private jets. We shouldn't be wasting oil so we should suffer under a ceiling fan. Yet, they will enjoy air conditioning. Seems like the "Global Warming" crowd has a plan for us to cut back or do without. They have no intention of doing so. Then more will be left for them to consume. How about that 16,000 square foot mansion Gore owns? I think it is one of about 4 mansions. How stupid do they think we are?

Answer 10

Well he is the spokesperson of Global Warming and brought it up due to his position. He started speaking of Global Warming since Day 1. So is Global Warming a lie or some money in a dirty slutty politician pocket.