atheists only..........?

Question

I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.

do you like this quote?

Answer 1

This is a silly question and I think you are asking because you wonder as well.

But if that statement where true then I would have to believe in god because someone told me to; otherwise I would never have heard of him.

Therefore faith in definition is the believing in the word of man not god. because the only source I have is the word of man because god refuses to show himself. I don’t believe in the word of man. if i did id have to believe in big foot and the lockness monster.

Answer 2

Yes. Without faith God is nothing. God only "exists" (in the subsistence sense, not actual existence) because people have faith.
If we rejected the concept of believing in entities purely on basis of faith, we wouldn't have God. Hence, the quote makes perfect sense (just not in the intended way.)

Answer 3

"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

do you like this quote?

... Only the last three words of it.

It makes no sense for a supreme being to create humans with senses that don't allow us to detect him, and then to threaten eternal torture for those that don't believe that he exist. On top of that, he demands that you don't lie. So I could lie and claim to believe that he exist and risk torture or believe it is all from the imagination of some psychotic dweeb that lived thousands of years ago with little grip on reality.

Answer 4

I don't like it or dislike it.

But if it were objectively true in the actual world, I think it would prove the speaker to be unreasonable and heartless, bordering on sadistic. One shouldn't create beings who need proof, refuse to provide such proof, and then punish the people who needed it.

I don't believe that any god exists, but if it did I certainly hope it wouldn't be that one.

Answer 5

I'm not wild about it, but I do think that it illustrates the importance of faith to religious belief.

Now try asking the Christians the same thing. You've noticed that the atheists are generally not wild about belief on the basis of faith - but for the most part, the Christians aren't either. The majority of believers here claim to have proof, or at least evidence of god's existence.

I see essentially no faith in the majority of the believers who post here. Most of them seem to believe that it's so important to produce evidence or proof that their beliefs are correct that they wantonly and repeatedly lie to produce that evidence or proof.

I think that the reason is pretty straightforward. Faith-based belief is personal. If you recognize that your belief in god is based in your faith and nothing more, you have no grounds for insisting that others should share that belief (and all of the other things that go with it).

Faith-based belief cannot be a basis for making judgments about those who do not share your belief, or for establishing social rules and laws. The believers who insist that they have evidence or proof are more interested in controlling others' behaviors than they are in having a relationship with god. They reject faith-based belief simply because that kind of belief doesn't serve their secular purposes, and they're simply not that interested in sacred purposes.

Whenever a believer insists that he or she has evidence or proof of God's existence, that believer is demonstrating selfish purposes for religion.

I do wish that nonbelievers were less quick to criticize faith-based belief in gods. Those beliefs are false, but we all have false beliefs. At least the believers who acknowledge that their beliefs are based in faith are being honest about it, and they're FAR less likely than the others to cause problems for the rest of us.

Answer 6

It makes me laugh because its completely idiotic.

Think about this.... if faith is the only reason god exists, that means mankind created god (like Atheists have been saying) which means god has not "always existed" because mankind has not "always existed".

Which shoots holes in the religious theory of god being the alpha and the omega and that he is omnipotent and omniscient.

Answer 7

that's absolutely ridiculous. Why would God's existence be contigent on faith? Faith is made up by the church as an excuse to get people to believe in something that is totally irrational

Answer 8

it proves an atheist's point for the most part. thier main arguement is that you can not prove God exists and you are saying you don't have to or need to. in contrast I wager more people would have faith in there was proof.

Answer 9

i like it, because it shows one of the only solid fallacies of the church. After all, if you have faith before you understand, you can be made to believe anything. Therefore, the church is able to ensure that it's member aren't begging anyone for proof, because they can be persuaded so easily before they even have the time to doubt.

Answer 10

It is the ultimate cop out. What if I said, "I am God incarnate, and I could prove it, but I won't." Would you believe me. At least I can make that statement, I have never heard God say it.