Do you think Jesus was born on Dec 25th or is it just a literary metaphor for astrology?

Question

The Sun hits it's lowest point in the sky on Dec 21st when Polaris aligns with 3 other stars making it the brightest star in the sky, particularly on that day. On December 25th the Sun begins to rise again in the sky each day, foreshadowing the coming of Spring, life and rebirth.

It's no coincidence that other deities like Horus were also born Dec 25th, had 12 disciples (12 sings of the Zodiac) and died around Easter only to rise from the dead 3 days later. A metaphor for the equinox in spring. The story of Christ repeats itself in many other religions that were around before Christianity.

Ancient peoples worshipped the sky, the stars, and especially the Sun. The Sun God, or in this case, God's Son. Jesus's time marked the change of the Ages. The Earth and Sun lined up to mark the beginning of the Age of Pisces, symbolized by the fish. In 2150 we will be in the Age of Aquarius. Jesus said he will be with us until the end of the world, or the Aeon, or the Age.

What do you think?

Laptop Jesus - The Sun rises everyday, but if you've noticed it stays lower in the sky in the winter, the lowest day is Dec 21st and begins to ascend on Dec 25th. it is higher in the sky during the summer, peaking June 21st.

Answer 1

You are pretty close, actually.

When Jesus started His ministry, He went to see St. John the Baptist. St. John said "I must decrease so that He may increase."

Now, since Jesus is the Son of God, the Church put His feast day (not birthday) on December 25, when the sun is starting to increase in its brightness, length of time in the sky and intensity - just like Jesus was to do.

Conversely, St. John's feast day will fall around the Summer Solstice - when the sun starts to decrease.

There is no great shock or mystery that some of the events in the Catholic church mirror those of the pagans - it was adapted that way so the converts could easily remember the important dates.

Answer 2

The True Messiah was born during the Hebrew fall festival of Sukkat (Succoth, a.k.a. Temporary Dwellings), and he was born in a Hebrew Sukkah (a three sided dwelling).
According to the Book of Luke, the Roman TAXATION was then an event that took place during a year on the Anniversary of the historic "Battle of Actium" (See Antiquities of The Jews, chapters 1 and 2 ), which battle took place on September 2, 31 B.C.; This completely rules out the month of December in any year on any calendar (Julian, Gregorian or Hebrew). It is interesting to note that Tishri 1 (Rosh Hashanah or Trumpets) is equivalent to August 30, 1 BC (Julian), and August 28, 1 BC (Gregorian).

* Since Taxation, and the "Battle of Actium" both occurred on September 2; and Since ALL Jews left for their Own City (Tribal City) so as to be present for the TAXATION according to The Decree Of Caesar, The Messiah's Birthday would have had to Coincide within the same annual time frame as the Hebrew Holy Days of The "FEAST OF TRUMPETS" (Rosh Hashanah), the "DAY OF ATONEMENT" (Yom Kippur), the "FEAST of BOOTHS (Temporary Dwellings)" (Succoth or Sukkat), and the "LAST GREAT DAY" (Also, Succoth). All of which occur between the last few days of August and early October every year, depending on the interaction between the Hebrew Calendar, and the present day Gregorian Calendar.

Answer 3

The fact that the shepards were with their flocks suggest Jesus was actually born in early spring. THere's nothing historically to suggest he was actually born on December 25, and in fact we have records of church officials from the 3rd century acknowledging that the 25th was a day to _celebrate_ the birth but that they didn't believe that was his literal birthday.

December 25 was the birthday of the deity of the Cult of the Unconquered Sun, followed by the pagan emperor of the time. THat is likely where it was borrowed from.

Answer 4

God's Word, the Bible does not say what day or the year that Jesus was born on. It does say that Shepard's were out in the fields keeping watch over their flocks. So the winter was not when he was born. The Bible does tell us the day, date, time and Jesus' age of 33 & 1/2 years old. If you count ahead or back those 33 & 1/2 years it will come out to Sept/Oct. He also didn't celebrate his birthday in the Bible but told his disciples to remember his death. Jesus came to die for us, not to be born for us.

Answer 5

Biblical scholars agree that Jesus was not born on Dec. 25th. More likely that he was born in the spring time, but it's not possible to know for sure.

We have records that the early church decided to put the Christmas day celebration intentionally on the same day of a pagan festival.

Answer 6

the gregorian calendar was worked backwards so that chrismas day was supposed to be the same day as jesus birth yes that is the whole point

but as the roman December was the tenth month at the time of that story they'd have had to pull of a stroke of pure genius to get it right , i'd say there's about a 1/365 chance

certainly if you asked jeezus if his brthday was 25/12 he wouldn't know what you were talking about talking about a twelfth month.

Answer 7

I don't know anything about Horus . . . do you know where there's a church where people worship Horus?

Perhaps people don’t worship Horus because Horus wasn’t the true God? And when the true creator of the Universe was made known to creation, the people stopped worshiping a god that wasn’t a god.

The calendar has nothing at all to do with God. The calendar has changed twice since Christ was born, Christ died and Christ was resurrected.

So, a particular day has nothing to do with God. Calendars are man-made, just like the signs of the Zodiac. Christ was God-made.

Answer 8

Once the Roman Empire swallowed Christianity and created the Catholic Church, it was much easier to fuse Christian beliefs with local pagans and make Church holidays for the sake of gaining the most converts (although in name only)... Christmas, Easter, All Souls Day, etc.

Answer 9

Yes, I agree that it's just a symbolic date, not that Jesus was born at that time.

Some historians agree that according to biblical stories and other documents of that time, while Emperor Caesar Augustus was taking a census of the Nazarene's for taxation purposes, it was being done around sometime in early April and in not in December.

Answer 10

December 25 is just a symbolism of the birth date of Jesus.Actually it was a little like spring time when he was born. God is alway with us wherever we go. Psalm 50. "I own the cattle on a thousand hills." "If I needed anything would you think I would ask you?" God is good and generous to those that call his name.