Any being that has the right to be called God must be omnipotent, omniscient and trancendant of time and space, right?
No one could properly understand the nature of completely unlimited knowledge and power that transcends time and space - You would have to be omniscient to truly understand!
Since we have now established that the concept of God is beyond human conception, And since you cannot actually believe in something you don't have even a basic understanding of (For example, you cannot believe in prime numbers until you actually understand what they are), I think that we can conclude that no one can actually believe in (an omniscient and omnipotent) God.
What are your thoughts on my theory?
Thanks in advance :P
2007-08-02 03:56:46 · 39 answers · asked by eckzl 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I've often wondered why Christians grieve just as much over the death of a loved one as atheists do. I guess there's your answer: they don't truly believe.
2007-08-02 04:00:30 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 7⤋
First you are going by logical deduction - that if you agree that God cannot be comprehended because you will need one of His qualities, then that no one can really believe in God.
But is that true? Because if you claim that you have to be omniscient to truly understand, then you are in effect saying that you need to be God in order to understand God!
put in another way: do I need to believe that I exist, and therefore I should eat in order to continue my existence?
one other comment: you cannot say that no one can actually believe in an omniscient and omnipotent God because no one is omniscient. Why not say that because mankind is everywhere, and goes through the passages of time, so therefore mankind should believe in God, right?
2007-08-02 04:12:04 · answer #2 · answered by Wai Meng Y 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I believe in Him by faith.....no, I cannot comprehend fully who God is, but that is where my faith comes in. I make a conscious choice to believe. It just makes sense that some powerful being way bigger than us could hold this world together and keep everything in such order. It could not be a random happening. What other explanation makes sense? Evolution makes no sense because we should still be evolving if that was the case. I have evidence in my life that God is real even if I have not seen Him. I do not know people at the electric company but I have evidence that they are there because my lights are on. He is that real.
2007-08-02 04:30:47 · answer #3 · answered by bethybug 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
If, as you say, the concept of God is beyond human conception, then how can you discuss it?
It's true that we can't understand everything about God, but that doesn't mean that we can't know something about him.
I marvel at the beauty of the stars in the sky, even though I see only a small portion of them. Does that mean that I can't believe in the existence of the whole universe?
2007-08-02 04:19:14 · answer #4 · answered by kcchaplain 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I don't follow your logic. The nature of God is quite understandable. You yourself gave a very concise definition of God: omnipotent, omniscient and transcendent of time and space. Just because we don't completely understand His nature, doesn't mean we can't believe in Him. Do you completely understand the nature of thought and memory? Emotion and awareness?
2007-08-02 04:07:16 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
The whole point of Christianity is that we believe in God without evidence. Faith is believing without proof.
But to ground the point out, I don't understand how to design how a lot of things work, that doesn't mean that I don't believe in their existence.
Case and point, I'm using Mozilla Firefox to communicate with you. Do I understand how the software actually does what it does? No. Yet I use it everyday.
So does belief = understanding? No.
-B
2007-08-02 04:26:38 · answer #6 · answered by The Brian 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
You're 100% right about God's essence being way too big for humans to understand completely.
But I can think of a few things that are beyond my comprehension that I believe in besides God.
Infinity: I know what that is in theory, but to fully understand it, comprehend it, visualize it, is beyond my limited capability.
Sub-atomic particles: Again, I know what they are in the textbook sense, but fully understand and able to visual them? No way.
How electrical impulses in your brain become thoughts, concepts, emotions: I know the physics of it, but not the essence. Nobody does.
So a thorough understanding of God isn't necessary to believe He exists, any more than a deep understanding of quarks is necessary to believe they exist. I believe because opf experience: I met Somebody in my heart that I identify as God and continue to see His work in people and the world around me.
2007-08-02 04:08:43 · answer #7 · answered by Acorn 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
My thoughts on this are that you are so wrong.
I believe in God and I have all of my life, and I wouldn't leave this world with out him!
We as human beings are not suppose to understand every thing in this world. The Lord will show us every thing and we will be caused to understand every thing when he wants that for us, until then we need just have faith and believe in him.
I know that I love the Lord, he is everything to me and I wouldn't be with out him in this life or even leave this world with out him.
I don't feel the need to have to know every thing, when God wants me to know everything then I will be made to understand. Until then I can be patient and wait.
Maybe you feel that you have established some thing in your mind, but I don't think that you have established what you feel into the minds of us who have a love of Jesus Christ.
God bless!
Additional details: For Diminati, Christians grieve over the loss of a loved one because it is good to grieve the loss of those we love. We don't grieve because of a lack of faith, grief doesn't show a loss of faith. We also say our prayers for the persons family members as well
2007-08-02 04:15:12 · answer #8 · answered by Cindy 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You are right. If one who can have only one mind of his/her god, he/she will be god too. Our knowledge are baseing on our background, education, experiences and thinking. so is limited. If we can concluding all the things in our world and analyseing everythings in our world. Finally we have a mind in our heart. We can said stop our mind not coming out again or for certain times. This time will cause us understand the world and the theory. Practise yourself.
2007-08-02 04:08:15 · answer #9 · answered by johnkamfailee 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You answered your own question. "You can not believe in prime number until you actually understand what they are.
You can not believe in God the Father who arts in heaven until you understand who you are.
You body is not your life, you are spirit, just housed in a body. When the body dies the spirits continues to live.
A prime number is a number that can only be divided by 1 or itself.
But which one does God the Father know, all of it even the things that we have not learned yet, God the Father already knows. and my teacher is God the Father, for I know who
--- I am.--- and from where I came.
2007-08-02 04:08:03 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Your theory is flawed. An omnipotent God is not beyond human understanding, it is just beyond the average persons experiance.
But it can be experianced. And remember what St. Thomas Aquinas said, What can be experianced can be known.
2007-08-02 04:05:56 · answer #11 · answered by cwbyht 2 · 3⤊ 0⤋