Jewish scholars say the TRINITY is Polytheism and Idolatry ?

Question

It began hundreds of years ago, when the Church changed the Bible. . .


The "New Testament": Pagan revenge

Between G-d's own miracles and the Jewish teaching of His Word, the pagan priesthoods of Egypt, Greece, and Rome were steadily losing their power over the gentile populations. They decided to fight back by creating a new religion, one that would claim to be the fulfillment of the Hebrew "Old Testament," yet would bring back the pagan lies in a new disguise.

Thus the "New Testament" was written, in Greek rather than Hebrew, and attached to the original Hebrew scriptures to try to change their meaning back toward paganism.

The "New Testament" tried to change G-d from One, as in the Hebrew scriptures, into a "trinity" as in Egyptian cults or the eastern religions of Hinduism and Buddhism. It described Jesus as G-d in a human body, like the pagans always described Pharoah and other wicked kings. It declared G-d's Law to be a "curse" that no one can truly obey, announced that there must be a "mediator" between G-d and man, and pretended that salvation could now be achieved outside the Law.

To blind the gentile nations, the "New Testament" also warned people not to learn from the Jews, declaring that Israel no longer possessed the true, complete Word of G-d.

In the Bible, the book of Daniel warned of an evil power--a false religion--that would believe in the true "G-d of fortresses... plus a god its fathers did not know." This religion would "speak bizarre words about the Most High, wear out the holy ones (the Jews), and plan to change the festivals and the religious Law."7 The Christian Church has indeed replaced Passover with Easter (the pagan holiday of Astarte and Ishtar) and Hanukah with Christmas (the pagan winter holiday).

Since then, Christian paganism has expanded to include Christmas trees, Easter eggs, and so forth.


http://www.noahide.com/paganism.htm


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Answer 1

The Jewish people can believe what they want to believe. Let us respect that.

Peace and blessings!

Answer 2

First of all, the church didn't change the bible. What we have in our hands today is a direct result of the sovereign Lord.

Second, the trinity is Scriptural. Read the whole book. 1 Peter 1:2 comes to mind.....

Acts 5:1-5 (the story of Annanias & Sapphira) Lying to the Holy Spirit is the same as lying to God

Answer 3

The Jews failed to see that their Kings David and Solomon were blessed by the Holy Spirit a la the heavenly Kingdom.

The Jews also failed to see that their earthly King were supported by the Heavenly Son and Holy Spirit (acting through the Prophet Elijah) when the Prophets of Baal were destroyed.

Answer 4

specific, the trinity is Polytheism, in spite of the undeniable fact that, it may fall under the commandment of 'thou shalt have not have been given the different god till now me' which receives them into hassle. The idolatry is obtainable in with the countless statues of Mary, and so on. in spite of the undeniable fact that, the hot testomony is in solidarity with the previous testomony. that's barely that maximum 'christians' do no longer realize it, using fact they have been taught to 'throw out' the previous testomony, an exceedingly incorrect thought. seem at Mark 12....YAHSHUA quoted Deuteronomy 6... SHMA, ISRAEL(hear oh Israel)YHWH your Elohim is ONE YHWH.... One God...monotheism. Yahshua continually pointed to a minimum of one ABOVE HIM, YHWH, the father. in spite of the undeniable fact that, when you consider which you bring up 'fake' religions, ALL have strayed, including Judaism, christianity, and Islam. The Jews make Rambam, and all their rabbis, like gods, yet they stray like each and every of something. that's an argument of coming back to Torah, Tanakh, and Yahshua's coaching on my own(ONE RABBI)which will carry you into the dominion of heaven. BTW did you be conscious of that EPHRAIM have been idol worshippers?

Answer 5

you are right... the catholic church completely messed up the theology....

but that does not change what Jesus originally said....he was clear in indicating that there is one God, that is the Father

Jesus presented himself as the (spirit) son of God, who pre-existed with the Father in heaven before he came to earth and took on human form...Jesus never tried to take his Father's place.

what is confusing is that the issue of God having a son in the spirit sense..who would come as messiah....is not clearly laid out in scripture....it is only hinted at....this has baffled me as well.... why wasn't it more clearly described?

only God is king...but the messiah would come as a prince...( son of a king)....he would come as a man, but he would also have origins "from everlasting" ( Micah 5:2)

the multi- layered meaning of the "servant" in Isaiah
a. chapters 41, 42, 44 indicate Israel is the servant
b. 49- the prophet Isaiah is the prophet
c. 45- cyrus the persian is the prophet
d. in Jeremiah - the king of babylon becomes the servant
e. sometimes the servant is loyal and sometimes it is blind...sometimes it is a light to the nations, sometimes it is a failure...this indicates the "servant" is not always the same person or group
f. but the servant in Isaiah 53 cannot be any of these.... the servant there is suffering for the sins and trangressions of others ...his soul is an offering for sin...he bore the sins of many.....there is a difference between suffering because someone sins against you or because the persecutor is sinful....and someone who makes an offering for sin.. this is a voluntary act.....this servant dies....and by his stripes, people are healed.... this is a substitutionary death....and removal of sin by sacrifice is a divine act....so the servant has to have a divine quality to him....or represent God in a very special way.....also....daniel 9 says that the messiah would be "cut off" (killed) when he came...this matches this description of the servant....in Micah 5:3, the messiah gives his people up until the time that Israel is in labor to give birth, when the remnant returns to Israel (1948). Then he returns and feeds his flock (Micah 5:4)

jews have been persecuted, martyred, because of worldly sins, but they have never been an offering for the sins of others...there is a difference..

only God can forgive sins...but in Daniel 9 the messiah seems to be associated with this task...."to make an end of sins...to make reconciliation for iniquity......"....somehow the messiah is more than just an ordinary man that God is using...

i agree that this is the most distressing issue that can arise about messiah.....what exactly does he really do...to bring peace? to make an end of sin...to make reconciliation for iniquity......does he just show up and a bunch of miracles occur...and then he just sits on a throne and watches God do everything.....?.....If God had a spiritual son in heaven that he woud send to earth to be messiah, why wasn't it clearly indicated.?...most of the messianic prophesies are very vague....from both a christian and jewish perspective... i have been searching for years for clarification....all i find is tiny pieces....was it an intentional ommission to trip people up so messiah would be rejected? that sounds awful....another thing that i have noticed is that scripture references books that are missing and not included in the tenach....was there more information in these missing books that would have helped clarify this issue?

inspite of the vagueness....if Jesus was who he said he was....then we need to believe what he said about himself.....that he was literally the son of the Father God...who pre-existed in heaven and then came to minister as messiah..that he would have to die for sins, but he would return again to redeem his people a second time.

Answer 6

When God visited abraham why were there 3 people? could it be that they were the 3 persons of God.

Answer 7

A little bit of truth, and a lot of historical revision.

Answer 8

Yes, what you've said and posted (repeatedly) is true. Now that that's established...

Find something else to talk about?

Answer 9

Why do you keep asking the same question?

Answer 10

God refers to himself as "us" or "we" several times in the bible.