Is the Polytheistic Trinity concept the achilles heal of Christianity ?

Question

The "New Testament": Pagan revenge

Between G-d's own miracles and the Jewish teaching of His Word, the pagan priesthoods of Egypt, Greece, and Rome were steadily losing their power over the gentile populations. They decided to fight back by creating a new religion, one that would claim to be the fulfillment of the Hebrew "Old Testament," yet would bring back the pagan lies in a new disguise.

Thus the "New Testament" was written, in Greek rather than Hebrew, and attached to the original Hebrew scriptures to try to change their meaning back toward paganism.

The "New Testament" tried to change G-d from One, as in the Hebrew scriptures, into a "trinity" as in Egyptian cults or the eastern religions of Hinduism and Buddhism. It described Jesus as G-d in a human body, like the pagans always described Pharoah and other wicked kings. It declared G-d's Law to be a "curse" that no one can truly obey, announced that there must be a "mediator" between G-d and man, and pretended that salvation could now be achieved outside the Law.

To blind the gentile nations, the "New Testament" also warned people not to learn from the Jews, declaring that Israel no longer possessed the true, complete Word of G-d.

In the Bible, the book of Daniel warned of an evil power--a false religion--that would believe in the true "G-d of fortresses... plus a god its fathers did not know." This religion would "speak bizarre words about the Most High, wear out the holy ones (the Jews), and plan to change the festivals and the religious Law."7 The Christian Church has indeed replaced Passover with Easter (the pagan holiday of Astarte and Ishtar) and Hanukah with Christmas (the pagan winter holiday).


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Jewish Ruling concerning Christianity :

"...according to the known Jewish ruling that Christians are idol worshippers." (Likkutei Sichos 37:198)


http://www.noahide.com/infiltration/xmas.htm

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Answer 1

Listen, just as I protest Muslims pretקnding to be Jews here, so I must protest Jews pretending to be Hindus.

This fellow is unwittingly spreading anti-Semitism. Can't you stop this?

די. זה לא עוזר.


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Answer 2

Hello,

I have no problem with the concept of the Trinity. It is quite a supernatural mystery but I always thought that St. Patrick in Ireland did a good job keeping it simple when he showed the three leaf shamrock to a king he was trying to convert.

Personally I see the Trinity as three different personalities manifested in the same one God. For example take a great leader like a general. A general as a military leader has his soldiering and leadership profile he must show to his men to drive and motivate them so he manifests that personality; there is the same general who is the family man who has a household to run, a wife and kids to rear and a house is not run like a battleship or military school so he manifests another personality in that environment. Finally there is the general who is a social animal and must go out and work with friends, communities and the whole social circuit and his character and personality are altered again to accomdate that.

In short, I have aused this type of analogy when analyzing the Trinity. Three different personalities but not three different gods.

Cheers,

Michael

EDIT - HBAR12 - If that is the case, a middle age concept then why did Christ always refer to the father in heaven, call him on ths cross and say only the father in heaven knows when the end will be? Why did the bible mention the holy spirit came as a dove when John baptised Jesus and later Christ say a sin against the holy spirit is unforgiveable?

Answer 3

No. we are very sparkling approximately in basic terms worshiping one God. This does contain slightly psychological gymnastics, when you consider that we examine with 3 persons, all of whom are God. We distinguish between the divine Being (one God) and the three persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, all of whom are that one God). This violates the huge-unfold one-guy or woman-in step with-being rule--yet why might desire to a rule that describes in basic terms human beings be conscious to God, besides? that would desire to be anthropomorphic. the thought isn't spelled out in the Bible using fact it took approximately 3 centuries for the church to discover it mandatory to attain this, and the latest books of the Bible have been accomplished till now the tip of the 1st century. the explanation in the back of spelling out the style of doctrine is that another interpretations could have became out to be polytheistic. the massive combat became over the coaching of a clergyman named Arius, whose theology made the Son a it seems that separate (and subordinate) God. by the way, figuring out YHWH with the father in basic terms, somewhat than with God (the triune divine Being), does not artwork.

Answer 4

No, Christianity's problem is a disregard, even comtempt, for reality.

P.S. Notwithstanding the work you put into this dissertation, Judaism isn't much better in that regard. Your problem is that you start from the premise that Judaism is true when, with no more evidence than any other religion, there is NO basis for choosing between any of them.

P.P.S. The Noahide laws were invented by Jews. Why should we gentiles pay any attention whatsoever to them?

Answer 5

It's sad to judge Christ by 'christian' or popular notions, traditions of men. The trinity came around in the Dark Ages and is nowhere or even implied in the Bible.

Answer 6

no, I don't think so. You make a good argument and I can see the similarities between christianity and hinduism but I don't see this as invalidating it, I see it as confirmation that it's probably the truth. The Jews didnt' have the monopoly on the truth - I think the indians probably had a good dose of it as well. I have a lot of respect for hinduism, and I think the similarities between christianity and hinduism only serve to emphasise that there is one truth running through all the religions, and catholic christianity is the one that pulls them all together.

Answer 7

I really doubt it was that organized.

It is a hijacking of Judaism, but what you've put forward allows people to criticize the conspiracy theory aspect rather than looking at the Greek/Roman/Egyptian roots of Christianity.

Study up and try again.

Answer 8

I enjoy being a polytheist pagan. I have relationships with several different gods and goddesses. It's helpful to have more than one because you always have someone to commune with if one is busy or being unresponsive.

Answer 9

Christianity is it's own Achilles heel. Then again if God did exist he/she could stop Christianity from flourishing.

Answer 10

Quran 18:86 “(Zul-Qarnain travelled till) when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: near it (sun in spring) he found a People” http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/018.qmt.html#018.086

Quran 86:5 YUSUFALI: Now let man but think from what he is created! 6. He is created from a drop emitted-; 7. Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs:

Quran 20:53 "he (allah) who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread out" http://www.usc.edu/dept/msa/quran/020.qmt.html#020.053