Why is there this bizarre myth that before Israel, Muslims preached 'tolerance' to Jews?

Question

I keep seeing this stated and it goes against historical fact. BEFORE Israel was established in 1948, the Muslim world allied itself with Hitler during World War Two. The Muslim leaders publicly stated they wished to carry out the 'final solution' against the Jewish in the Middle East - just like Hitler was doing in Europe.

And again, BEFORE Israel was established, the Muslim world was producing and distributing rabidly racist material, not just against Jews but also against Christians.

Why do people keep denying this? It's historical, objective, verifiable FACT!

'In times of war'??? There WAS no war in the Middle East during the time I'm talking about. The Arab world voluntarily allied itself with Hitler. You have totally ignored the facts.

SAHAR: yeah, that's all very lovely, BUT you are ignoring FACTS. You can't deny that the Islamic world supported Hitler and tried to carry on his plan in the Middle East because it is well documented.

Answer 1

During the Hevron Massacre of 1929, 67 Jews were killed, 60 injured, and their homes and businesses' were ransacked, all by Arabs. Last time I checked, the State of Israel wasn't even in existence in 1929. The British Mandate's response was to relocate all of the Jews to prevent another massacre.

Answer 2

First of all, it is impossible for Bedoin Arabs to have lived there, since Arabic was not a spoke language 7000 years ago. Hebrew is not really a spoken language as well. This is the ignorance many can see on this forum. Most people just simply do not read books. These are also the same people who claim that they are religious yet say they have lived there 7000 years ago. 7000 years is against the bible, Torah and the Q'ran. Maybe 5000 years means 5000 earth days (from the book bible and genesis). As for the question, the only reason arabs say that is because otherwise they would have no claim to the land.

Answer 3

Despite what a previous answerer said, this IS relevant.

The reason? Because at the moment, the Arab world seeks to convince everyone that it's 'only' problem with jews is the issue of Israel.

Your question and the facts that both you and others offer backing it up, PROVE beyond any doubt that the claim is false. The Muslim world has a problem with Israel because it is a jewish nation - not because of land.

For goodness sake, the first Palestinians WERE Jews!

I'm starring your question because you raise a point that people overlook.

As to the person who brought up the Holocaust: are you actually a bit mad? Nobody else but YOU raised this topic yet you are accusing us of using it!

Well done to all the more intelligent and fair replies on here.

Answer 4

Islam has nothing to do with racism.

As a muslim country, Turkey was neutral during the war and lots of Jews trying to survive came to Turkey,and set a new life.There's not two Islams,there's only one.

And Hitler was a secret muslim i guess.

The history remembers. All the crusader attacks against muslims.So you can judge who was wishing for peace and who was not.

Answer 5

It's all a matter of perspective. Prior to Israel's founding and it's subsequent supremacy over its Arab neighbors, Jews had been a weak minority among Muslim lands. There they faced economic, judicial and personal persecution, yet as the Muslims 'had it good' to their knowledge everything was just fine. To them apparently, Jews as second-class citizens equals tolerance and peace. Then their world was turned upside down, and they simply could not deal with the reversal. Perhaps it is because Islam teaches that Muslims are superior to others that it was so difficult to now be the weaker party, but whatever the reason it has resulted in a wave of hate. Simply put, the Muslims think it was good because they were on top, and now that the Jews are on top they yearn for those days of "tolerance".
Another reason for this myth is that many people compare Islamic treatment of Jews to Christian treatment of Jews, in which case Muslims do come out as more tolerant. However, that they were more tolerant doesn't mean that they were tolerant.

Answer 6

Another good thought provoking question London Minx. Seems to me that many (trying to be political correct there) think that if they keep on saying the same thing over and over and over again that it might become seen as true. Maybe George Orwell was predicting the future :(

Answer 7

You know what you're right. Muslims did kill Jews in the Middle East and were perhaps very open about the hate for Jews just like Nazi Europe. Jews were being killed in Algeria, Yemen, Syria and Iraq this is a fact! But as a Muslim can I please say that Islam does teach tolerance and respect for other religions it is the Muslims that refuse to do so!!

Answer 8

It was the Prophet Mohammed himself who attempted to negate the positive image of the Jew that had been prevalent earlier. According to historian Bernard Lewis, the Prophet Mohammed's original plan had been to induce the Jews to adopt Islam; when Mohammed began his rule at Medina in AD 622 he counted few supporters, so he adopted several Jewish practices-including daily prayer facing toward Jerusalem and the fast of Yom Kippur-in the hope of wooing the Jews. But the Jewish community rejected the Prophet Mohammed's religion, preferring to adhere to its own beliefs, whereupon Mohammed subsequently substituted Mecca for Jerusalem, and dropped many of the Jewish practices.

Jews faced the danger of incurring the wrath of a Muslim, in which case the Muslim could charge, however falsely, that the Jew had cursed Islam, an accusation against which the Jew could not defend himself. Islamic religious law decreed that, although murder of one Muslim by another Muslim was punishable by death, a Muslim who murdered a non-Muslim was given not the death penalty, but only the obligation to pay "blood money" to the family of the slain infidel. Even this punishment was unlikely, however, because the law held the testimony of a Jew or a Christian invalid against a Muslim, and the penalty could only be exacted under improbable conditions--when two Muslims were willing to testify against a brother Muslim for the sake of an infidel.


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Answer 9

A picture's worth 1,000 words, here's Yassar's uncle laughing it up with Der Fuhrer:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/muftihit.html

And doesn't Hitler's comment: "Germany's objective [is]...solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere" remind you of something Ahmedinijad would say today?

Answer 10

You are totally right.

The Arab world did indeed support Hitler and in fact several of the Muslim spiritual leaders met with him also.

I have no idea why some people insist that the Muslims only have a problem over Israel. For 7 years I lived and worked in the Middle East, in Iraq and Jordan among others, and I heard so much racist against both Jews and Christians, I couldn't bear it.

People should wise up to the fact that the Muslim world is neither tolerant nor peaceful. If you haven't been to a Muslim country you simply cannot imagine what they really think because here in the UK their true feelings are expressed only behind closed doors of mosques and their own homes.

But I lived with them for many years and I'm telling you, it's nothing to do with Israel. The Muslims loathe both Jews and Christians with a passion that would surprise you.