The holocaust; are we forgetting something?

Question

So, over the course of my online gaming experience, I have seen a pattern emerge whenever I say something about the Second World War; particularly the holocaust.

It seems that everyone thinks that the holocaust was an attempt by the Nazis, driven by no other purpose than pure hate, to kill all the Jews. People use this as ammunition against Christianity...

To sum it up:

Even direct mail pieces from the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum cannot acknowledge the Polish dead -- their annual direct mail piece reads, “You see, the Nazis tried to wipe out not only the Jews but also the physically and mentally handicapped, Jehovah’s Witnesses, homosexuals, Gypsies, Soviet POWs and people who didn’t agree politically

No mention of Christians dying in the holocaust...

Well, hold on I'm out of Characters!

The fact is, history seems to overlook the startling fact that many, many Christians died in the holocaust as well.

Five and a half million, to be precise.

Hmm, here's a quote:

"You have illustrated very clearly the way those 5 million non-Jews are regarded by Jews: 'with indifference, a wave of the hand, a change of the subject, and a pounce on whatever arbitrary weaknesses or inaccuracies are attendant within the raising of their specter.' Yours was a crystal clear example of "co-opting the Holocaust".

There are over five-thousand books in print about the holocaust. Only a handful mention the five million Christians killed...

And when people bring up "the evil Christians" in holocaust discussions, why aren't people like Oscar Schindler mentioned? Christians that risked their lives to save thousands...

Yeah, it was horrible... But it seems to me that the entire holocaust story is kind of one-sided

Answer 1

The premise of this question is false, as Jehovah's Witnesses were and are Christians.

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Answer 2

You're right! Why is it that "There are over five-thousand books in print about the holocaust. Only a handful mention the five million Christians killed...?" Why haven't more Christians commemorated the loss of their loved ones? Why is it that Christians try to sweep the Holocaust under the rug? Why does it seem that Jews are the only ones who have been devastated by their loss? Is it because of the Christian "turn the other cheek" philosophy? Perhaps that philosophy *doesn't* work in all cases...

Yes, many families of the disabled suffered losses. Yes, many families of gypsies suffered losses. Yes, many families of Jehovah Witnesses suffered losses. However ALL Jews suffered losses. I doubt that you can find one born Jew who does not remember at least ONE family member who was tortured and killed in the Holocaust. Jews had very large families. It is not all that unusual to talk to people who have lost up to 200 family members in the Holocaust.

How many members of YOUR family were tortured and killed? Why don't YOU write a book about the Christians and other unfortunates who were tortured and killed by some maniac in a Christian culture. Why was Hitler able to find so many Christians willing to aid and abet in his atrocities? Why were there so few Christians willing to stand up and protect both Christians and Jews in their time of need. Why did the Roman Catholic Church not speak up for Jews as they did for Christians? Why wouldn't the Roman Catholic Church allow the return of the children of Jews to the parents who survived the Holocaust?

Try putting a few of these questions out on Y/A...
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Answer 3

Nobody says that those people weren't killed--

the reason that it's so 'special' he killed so many Jews is because he killed the Jews specifically to try to wipe them out; and almost succeeded. There are only 14 million left (and that's counting everyone who's ever eaten a matzo ball. The other ones he killed because he simply didn't like them or thought they were dangerous.

That's just why history makes a point of the number of Jews he killed

Answer 4

Those 5 million Christians died because of the war not because of the direct assault of the Nazis to annhilate them. And should you also not count those gays, gypsies, disableds and handicappeds, Jehovah's, Soviet POW's as Christians?

Ofcourse there should never be any mention of Christians dying in the holocaust because that would upset the Christians who supported the Nazis. Imagine, Christians killing and murdering fellow Christians!

So what is your point? Even though there were many Christians who died on the holocaust, can it erase the fact that those who committed the evil acts were doing it in the name of Christianity and claiming to be Christians?

Answer 5

The Jewish victims of the Holocaust were killed for no other reason than that they were Jewish. There were millions of Christians killed but not because they were Christians, but because they were handicapped, homosexual, opposed the Nazi regime in some way, because they belonged to ethnic groups that were considered inferior by the Nazis, namely the Gypsies and the Slavs or because they had Jewish grandparents. Some people were killed because they opposed the regime because of their religious faith, particularly the Jehova's Witnesses and members of the Confessing Church such as Dietrich Bonhoeffer. However Christians who opposed the regime because of their faith were a minority among the Christians.

Nobody denies that 3 million Catholic Poles were killed, either because they fought against the German occupation in some way, or because they belonged to the Polish intelligentsia that the Nazis wanted to wipe out in their efforts to subjugate the Poles, or because they had to work as forced laborers under conditions that killed many of them, or they were killed as "retaliation" for partisan activity, or because they had helped Jews. But they were not killed just because they were Christians.

However I don't use the Holocaust as "ammunition against Christianity" as I don't think that the Nazis were primarily driven by faith in Christianity. I think the old Christian religious hatred for the Jews since the middles ages played a role in the emergence of Nazi racist antisemitism, but Nazi ideology was without a doubt very different to Christianity particularly in its open rejection of such values as compassion and care for the weak which are at least theoretically elements of Christianity. And there were Christians who had a strengthened belief in such values as compassion and care for others because of their religious faith.
But unfortunately by far not all Christians were like that and there were Christians who were perpetrators and bystanders of the Holocaust, and Christians who were victims of it. That's the reality.

I have no interest in using the Holocaust for any kind of propaganda for or against Christianity, but just don't want the facts to be twisted.

Answer 6

Christians did not kill the jews in the holocaust Hitler did. As a christian I know that Jews are God's chosen people. I think it was tragic and horrible ( is an understatement) what happened to these poor precious people.

Answer 7

Hey the other peoples are not worthy of mentioning, for this was an attempt to eliminate the superior jewish people. It is like mentioning pets killed in a house fire.

Answer 8

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