Will and should AKC recognize the ROM and ROMX as a title?

Question

Does your breed club recognize it?

I think it would be good, but I haven't thought about it very much. Let me know what you think.

If you don't know what I am talking about this should give you an Idea. http://www.pembrokecorgi.org/ROM.html

Answer 1

All of the national clubs that we've belonged to have these type of awards.

The variation that I like better, awards points for both championships AND for performance titles. From my perspective this recognizes dogs as being well rounded dogs and not just show champions.

The AKC already recognizes dogs that produce the most champions each year, in each breed, although it isn't a title.

I don't see the AKC going down this road with a title because you really don't have a competition between the dogs, per se. In all other AKC events it is a dog competing in some venue against another dog and the winner getting a title.

Timothy S. - I will disagree with your comments about conformation vehemently. Although I judge tracking and obedience and support those venues tremendously, to eliminate a group of dogs simply because they have their Championship is extremely shortsighted. You mean to say that if you had a Schutzhund III, IPO III, OTCH, CT, MACH dobe out there, that you'd not consider breeding to it because it was also a conformation Champion?

The Border Collie people do this to some degree. There is an alternate registry. It is filled primarily with herding people. They have it stated in their rules that if a dog earns it's AKC Championship, that it is dropped from their registry.

The Border Collie people tried this BS in both Canada and the US. A group took the stand that they didn't want their dogs competing in conformation because it would ruin the breed. In the US they came to their senses and eventually backed down. They held firm about this in Canada. The CKC said fine, you can no longer show in ANYTHING. This is why Border Collies are no longer shown in Canada.

Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Answer 2

Here is my opinion on the subject: NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

My breed, Newfies, have a ROM recognized by the National Club. What I see is people breeding JUST to get the ROM. I personally know a breeder that is showing EVERY puppy from a certain litter (at her own expense) to get a ROM on the *****. Now, some of these dogs are not GREAT specimines. They are good, but not great by any means. Also, not ONE dog from that litter cleared all the health screenings for the breed. Each one either suffers from CHD or Elbow dysplasia. So what good is the ROM?????? In my opinion, that ***** should not be bred again, much less get a ROM. What good is a ROM if you can stick big-time handlers on pups to get them finished for the sire/dams ROM and if they are unhealthy????
I think by the AKC recognizing the title, we will see MUCH more of it. They are counting on that to boost the entries to the shows that are going up and up in cost!!!!!!!
Nothing like dangling the carrot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And personally, when I am looking for a stud, a ROM would not encourage me to use one over the other. It might DIScourage me since a ROM stud has produced a LOT of puppies in many cases....not always a good thing!!!!!!

Answer 3

I can only state what I know and that's with the Dobermans . The DPCA is a breeders club of show politics and nothing more. I have seen so many cases of who owns the dogs or who handles the dogs decide who wins the shows. To me a Champion Title is meaningless and in fact I won't use a dog from show lines due to the bad health issues that has been concentrated in the show lines. The only events that hold weight with me are the sporting and obedience completions. When I look to a stud for my ***** I look at health , background breeding, temperament then looks that will complement my *****.

Answer 4

I like the idea of recognizing dogs that produce good dogs, simply being a good dog is a first step, then we need to know who passes those good traits on.
I'd be interested to know if breeders use the title when it's available to look for potential breeding partners.

Answer 5

I think it should be a recognition by the breed club, rather than the AKC.

Answer 6

I still don't know what you are talking about.