Do evangelicals have a partial and incomplete bible.?

Question

Luther took a number of books out of the bible to support his orthodox teaching and in effect created a new bible.

the bible that had been in existence for 1300 years was changes and a lot take out of it, including chapters from daniel and ester.

So how can evangelicals have faith in the bible if it wa changed from the one that the early christians put togehter

Answer 1

The Protestant Bible uses the same Old Testament canon that the Jews used. There is plenty of evidence of this.

We can always look to Jesus as a reason that the Apocrypha is not included in the English Protestant Bible. In Luke 24:44, He says, "These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you-that everything written about me in the law of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms had to be fulfilled."

Notice that Jesus discussed the law, the prophets, and the psalms. In the Hebrew Bible (which Jesus would have used), there are twenty-two books, which are broken into those three sections. Another ancient witness to this fact is the first century Jewish historian, Flavius Josephus. In his writings, he speaks of the Hebrew Scriptures as having twenty-two books with the same three divisions as well. If you compared the Hebrew Scriptures to our Protestant Old Testament, you would see that the twenty-two books of the Hebrew Scriptures are equivalent to the thirty-nine books in the Protestant Old Testament.

The difference is in the breakdown. For example, in the Hebrew Scriptures, I and II Samuel are considered one book. As are I and II Kings. Joshua, Judges and Ruth are one book. Isaiah, Jeremiah and Lamentations are also one book. Ezekiel and the minor prophets are one book. Psalms, Proverbs, Job, Song of Solomon, Ecclesiastes, Daniel, Ezra and Nehemiah are one book. I and II Chronicles are one book.

Nine of these books are called writings, four are called the latter prophets, four are called the former prophets, and five are called the Law of Moses, for a total of twenty-two books. Therefore, none of the Apocryphal books are considered Scripture in the Hebrew Bible. Our Protestant Bible follows this same pattern.

And to sum it up, I'll go back to Jesus' words: "...from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who died between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, it will be charged against this generation!" (Luke 11:51)

Jesus had been speaking to the religious leaders of His day, and called them into account for all of the righteous blood shed from Abel to Zechariah. Abel's blood was the first to be shed (in Genesis) and Zechariah's blood was shed in Chronicles (the last book of the Hebrew Scriptures). Although Zechariah's blood is not the last to be shed chronologically, it is when you look at it in the order of the books of the Hebrew Scriptures. Therefore, Jesus was speaking of the first and the last blood being shed according to the order they appear in the Hebrew Scriptures. In effect, Jesus was calling the Old Testament complete (without the Apocrypha).

Answer 2

I was brought up protestant and I have had 2 bibles that included the apocrypha. I think Luther and the reformers where just trying to find where the 16C catholic church had gone off course, and one possibility was that the apocryphal writings, which Jewish scholars didn't rate on the same level as the canonical writings, was the cause of some of the catholic doctrines of that time that looked badly aberrant. It is true the catholics are now 90% back on course, although the papal leadership-of-all-churches hope isn't possible now, I think, and stating supremacy is not going to work.

If there is a part you would want to leave out, it would be the Apocrypha. Anyway the focus of the christian message is the New Testament, and I don't think there is any difference there between christian denominations.

Answer 3

Is this a question or a statement? Regardless, the bible is incomplete. Constantine made sure of that. The very nature of the bible ensures that it remain incomplete. Written by prophets under direction from god, who is to say god only spoke to the sixty-eighty people since time began? To make such a statement is ignorant beyond anything els e.

When god speaks, people write it. And the simple fact is, god has spoken far more than what is written in the bible. Take into account the American continent which was all the while populated. The Greater Asian continent. All the various islands. Much MUCH more has been spoken and written than we have presented in the bible. And there is still yet more writings to be found.

All this not even including the tamperings that man has had on the existing bible manuscripts.

The entire book of Enoch is almost completly disregarded by the greater Christian community.

Answer 4

Some Christian denominations decide to leave the apocrypha out or put it at at the end as an appendix. Some Jewish sects do the same I believe.
Moreover faith in God does not necessarily mean that you need to only base your beliefs on the bible. Catholicism for example follows the teachings of the book, but at the same time follow a set of long traditions that reach far back to early christianity.

Answer 5

Luther was not "orthodox," by any stretch of the word. And while he moved some books to the back of the Bible, he wasn't the one who removed the Apocrypha from the Bible. The King James Version was translated from the Hebrew. Because the Apocrypha is not present in the Hebrew, they moved all of the material based on Greek manuscripts to the middle of the book. Years later, in 1769, they dropped the Apocrypha from the King James Bible.

Answer 6

In times of Jesus Christ and the Apostle the Jews were using same number of book in the old testament same Catholic bible. Plus, the extras book are important are worthy to interpretation and understanding of scripture. This what the protestants don't want you know about. The Pharisee which Jesus was hard with them later in time became main faith of the Jewish faith because they survived after the destruction of temple. Since those extra book were causing problem Jewish faith because greater of mass of Jews were converting into Christianity and reveled prophecy of messiah. Then Jew Pharisee remove them from the old testament. It work to reducing great number of Jew in become christens.

When the church or Catholic church put the books together including old and new testament or Letter which are call the cannons scripture. They are call cannons scripture because they carries original teaching of Christ which linked with holy tradiction that came from Jesus Christ. These extra book form the old testament has to do also with the cannons. Father of Church had to secure the faith by Appling cannon laws. This was done before or same time persecution of the christens in Rome.

Answer 7

Are you serious? The bible is God's word or whatever and if you're saying "well don't just read that cause it won't make sense read the scholar's writing too" then you're saying the bible won't make sense and you shouldn't have to read any scholar's writing's to understand the bible. The bible is supposed to be the words to live by and if you need to further understand it with scholars writing's then you know in your heart the bible is pure crap.

Answer 8

Yes...it's called "The Only What I want To Believe Bible"

Answer 9

Bill,....that war (between cathlics and protestants ) is over....long ago...

Please come back to reality.

Answer 10

And which Bible do you read?