If from war comes peace, and peace is good, does that mean war is good?

Question

It's a lyric from a song called 'Twisted Logic.'

Answer 1

Come on Emp, you KNOW better than this. War is NOT good for any reason. Just ask the guys who end up doing the actual fighting how much fun it is. War is NOT good for the folks who end up getting injured or killed. It's not good for their families. It's not good for their friends, it's not good for the winners and, it's not good for the losers. The ONLY ones that war is good for is the weapons manufacturers and their employees. PERIOD.

Raji the Green Witch

Answer 2

Does it mean war is good for that reason? No. Peace brought about by war never lasts, because the temperament that sees war as a solution to conflict answers inevitable conflict with war, or at least violence. Moreover, war is by no means the only way to achieve peace. It's not even a very effective means, really. Real, lasting, secure peace lies not in seeking to eliminate those who disagree with you, but in coming to accept that they do. Shameful, that the few who cannot achieve this manage to pull in so many others who can. War should only ever be considered as a last resort.

However, nothing is entirely good or entirely bad. (Something else it would help immensely, for us to realize.) There is some good in war. Albeit, not much.

Answer 3

Ah, peace.

War begets war, retaliation begets retaliation. The solution? Do not start war, do not retaliate. But that has been proven to fail, as peaceful nations are still conquered or trampled underfoot. So what to do?

Here's what I think: peace of the species is impossible to achieve, nor should anyone be striving for it; the individual can only accomplish peace of the self and hope that this incites others to follow suit. Live by example. Yes, there will always be those who want to destroy you despite your pacifism, but the strong mind lives on where the strong body fails. And if you have peace of mind, what need do you have for peace of others?

We're often so concerned about other people that we forget about ourselves, mistakenly presuming that we have all the answers and know best. We must be the change we wish to see. We must be peace if we want to see peace.

That, of course, requires that we abandon our attachment to the Self that struggles to survive. As such, even teaching through example will not change the world, as the survival instinct is too strong within most for it to be challenged, let alone overcome.

Live for oneself or live for others? Which will it be? This may seem unfair to some, but I expect the religious to take the high road, since they not only preach it but have hope for something more than this life. Some of us don't have such a hope, so we feel that we deserve to live as we wish, having only 75 years on this tiny planet...

Answer 4

+PAX

I really don't like philosophy! :-) I would not say that war is "good" by a long shot but I do believe that it is necessary.

What would have happened if we hadn't stopped Hitler or the Japanese in WWII?

Hitler would have continued his march into England and continued his mass slaughter of the Jews and anyone else that he thought "not Aryan enough" or "defective". Even by the time we did defeat him, he had slaughtered over 6 million innocent men, women and children, including the nun in my avatar. She was gassed at Auschwitz.

And don't tell me it didn't happen. I've seen the tattoos and have spoken with the survivors. It did happen.

If we hadn't stopped Japan, who knows what would have happened. The USA would probably be divided in half and speaking German in the East and Japanese in the west.

Many, many lives were lost in that war but it was one that had to be fought to remove the evil despots at that time.

Benedicite,
J.

Answer 5

No, they are two entirely different states. That's like saying, "If from peace comes war, and war is bad, does this mean peace is bad?" In the case of war and peace, they seem more like historical cycles which mankind must endure.

Answer 6

What you've said to this short attention span audience is very simple. I can break it down easily. Person A leads to Person B. Who leads to Person C. Who then leads to Person D Obama. The link chain being Soviet Communism.starting with Stalin. Who makes Lenin and Trotsky look like peachy home boys. That Nazism WAS supported by American Communists. Who backed America's Neutrality. Stalin did at one time call Nazism and Fascism "Brothers in Socialism." That The House Un-American Activities Committee And Senator McCarthy's Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations (which existed before and STILL exists after) was quite correct about Soviet infiltration into our culture, Nation and society. Result?? Today we have Stalin's and Mr. Davis's legacy of influence in the Oval Office. Who decries the idea he's a "secret communist" and ---oh what's that vile word they avoid????-----SOCIALIST!

Answer 7

from peace comes peace.... look at the states they are involved in every war on earth in one way or another, it has never brought peace as a matter of fact it only brought more war....

Answer 8

War in not good nor evil
unfortunately war is necessary

if you claim peace and are not ready to back it up with war you will be conquered, history tell this over and over.

Answer 9

Your premise is flawed.

Peace is the lull between two wars.

True peace is the absence of not only war, but all other things that infringe on that true peace.

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Answer 10

Its an enforced "peace" by whoever is the winner, you live under their rules or else. War doesn't solve war.