Atheists, how did stupid atoms write their own software?

Question

There is no known law of physics able to create information from nothing.
Programs only originate either in an intelligent mind or in other programs (which themselves originate in an intelligent mind)

UFO® Crocoalien - - -
God as the First Cause is obviously eternally existent, He had no cause and therefore had no beginning. As such, God didn't need to write His own software. He is who is.
Atoms, on the other hand, are subject to the law of cause and effect which governs all matter, they obviously had a beginning, so they either came into existence as the result of a first cause, or (as atheists are bound to believe) they created themselves from nothing along with their own governing laws and the information necessary for potential life.
This must be the greatest miracle of all. Far greater than anything theists believe in.

rhsaunders - - -
Natural selection cannot create any information, it merely selects traits from the existing gene pool, it is a conserving mechanism rather than a a producer of novel characteristics. Like most people you have been hoodwinked by evolutionists into believing that natural selection can perform miracles.

Mordent - - - You have proven Dr. Duane Gish right when he said: 'It is unbelievable, what unbelievers are willing to believe in order to be unbelievers' and G.K. Chesterton was perfectly right when he said: 'when people stop believing in God it is not that they believe in nothing, but rather that they are willing to believe in anything'

Nadine P - - - For your information (and all the other atheists who have ridiculed the question) the question I asked was actually a quote from an atheist and evolutionist, the well known physicist Paul Davies, who wrote in New Scientist 163 18th Sept 1999.
"How did stupid atoms spontaneously write their own software . . . .? Nobody knows . . ." So the question was originally asked by an atheist and scientist who was honest enough to admit the truth. So it seems you are all left with egg on your faces.

Answer 1

i guess they wrote it the same way god wrote his in order to create himself. i think you should tell us how god did that.

Answer 2

You mean like the program that tells the Earth to go around the sun in a specific elliptical orbit? Or the program that allows random statistical quantum events to tend toward certain probabilities?

Information is created from nothing all the time. For example, if a beta particle decays, that is a new piece of information that was not there before.

Answer 3

Computers have been around for 20 years. Give them 200 million years and they may well spontaneously write their own programs.

So it is MORE believable that a big man in the sky made every conceivable thing in the entire universe in 6 days (yet somehow gets stuck for 3 days making living things, and 4 days just on the Earth, but doesn't have a problem creating quadrillions of other things in the universe in the remaining 2), and did all this 6000 years ago - AND consistently changes every law of physics just to deceive us and get us to believe in him without the prejudice of our brains and common sense? And you say I'm the gullible one?

Answer 4

Very fastly you decided. You go to quantum theory ,If you try to solve schrodinger equation of energy . You will get negative value on a problem that is E= -hw.result .
Now, no energy means nothing .
Then question what is negative energy.
Physics derivation is their.
So from nothing every thing is get created.
Therefore a atom can write own software.
At zero temparature energy become zero ideal eqn,
Practically Ezero = hw . Go thro quantum mechanics book.
Next think about delta function in maths
at one time axis point it is available at zero and same time infinite energy value. Think over this you will understand.
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scientifically how the universe get started . From nothing to every thing(universe itself).
So you indirect question atom write own soft ware.
Possible -- philosophically. and will pass thro mathematics and physics.

Answer 5

Your assertion is incorrect on its face. Evolution creates information via natural selection. Atoms, of course, don't have software; they simply obey the laws of physics. You are free, if you wish, to suppose a god that designed the laws, but it is provably useless to do so, hence there is no point in it. For more on this, see:

Answer 6

i'm not sure i understand your question, but in physics there are many ways to show that energy is a base of all things, and information is just a feed back of energy. there never is and/ or was nothing, there would always have to be something, but cause nothing is something that is very hard to achieve. nothing is the absence of anything/ everything. now i don't know what "stupid atoms write their own software" means, but i'd like to know.

Answer 7

What makes you think that atoms are "stupid"? I'm going to tell them you said that! Stupid is as stupid does.... You notice I'm not trying to answer this in any kind of rational way because you have already made up your mind and don't want to hear anything but what you already believe. And if I'm wrong about that, then post this in the Biology section and see what happens...

Answer 8

Then how was God created? The good thing about science is that it doesn't do the whole "It was always here" thing, science doesn't know all the answers, so that is why scientists go and study and experiment. And I think you mean you cannot creat or destroy energy, not information...maybe I'm wrong who kows?

Answer 9

Atoms don't have software. You could argue that the entire universe is one vast computer, and many scientists would agree with you. Cause is unknowable, in my opinion.

Adding God doesn't solve anything, because in order to design the universe, he would have to be intelligent and motivated, both of which are very complex.

Answer 10

Do we know all the laws of physics? I was under the impression that we really don't even know how much we don't know. I hope some smart atoms read what you said and get mad at you and split.

Answer 11

That is not true. There is no "program" that tell a hammer to drop to the ground. It is a property. Cyclical and transient processes leave a record of their presence. That is information.