Everyone please read., especially atheists! Earlier I asked why God wouldn't spare my child from cancer.?

Question

I asked why the whole "Ask and ye shall receive" BS didn't apply when I begged God to spare my child from the torture of cancer. He died a year ago. Here's one of the replies I received:

"For all you know God took your child to be with Him in Heaven to spare your child from some misfortune here on earth. Since you're not a Christian it could be that God took your child to Heaven before you hardened their heart against Jesus. When Jesus said "Ask and ye shall receive", He wasn't teaching that God is some on call doctor whom you can ring up on the prayer phone and have Him come and cure any illness that you or another person may be suffering from."

Does this infuriate anyone as much as it does me? How was God "Sparing my child of misfortune" by giving him cancer?

Gnostic, I wish I could say I were making this up, but I'm not. Your reply hurt me.

The rest of you, THANK YOU for the intelligent and supportive replies.

Wow, Jihad Jill, aren't you a despicable *****?

Answer 1

You have no idea how it infuriates me. They tell you over and over and over "god can do miracles," but when you ask for one and don't get it, they give you that crap about "we don't know his plan for the greater good." Bull$hit!

Someone is desperate and god

1. doesn't care
2. has some greater good that includes you living in pain
3. feels you don't believe the right way so you don't get what you want.

Or, possibly, god can't do miracles or he isn't there.

I am truly sorry for your loss. I have no words of wisdom or comfort to share with you. There is nothing good about what happened to you. It sucks, and it sucks that you have to find a way to live with it. It also sucks that the honey dripping do gooders make you feel worse with their cloying "god knows best" BS.

I hope that you find a way to live with your pain. I hope that you find some measure of joy in the short time you shared with your son. That time is precious. Don't let the ridiculousness of believers taint the too few memories you had. You loved your son, and you did everything you could for him.

I wish you the best.

Answer 2

Dear One,
I am so sorry for the loss of your child. I do not know that feeling, but I am sure it is the worst thing in the world. I have suffered loss of other loved ones, like my dad when I was very young. It was a most difficult time in my life.
I am sorry that someone answered your question in a way that was cold, or unsympathetic. We, as Christians are to comfort those who have lost loved ones.
Hon, God didn't give your child cancer, although you are very angry with Him right now, and probably that's why you are saying it. He grieves when you grieve. Believe me, He feels your pain. This is the hardest of the questions to answer as a Christian. Bad things happen to good people. We all know that. Satan is the ruler of this world right now. We know that by reading the book of Job. Job's suffering did not come from God. It came from Satan.
Are you, or were you a Christian? I am just curious. I was just wondering if you had God in your life. Sometimes God doesn't give us the answer that we expect. Sometimes the answer is yes, sometimes it is no. Sometimes He is silent. For whatever reason He chooses. He is God, and there is no other. He knows what it's like to lose a child. His only Son died on a cross, for the sins of the world, so we could have an eternity with Him. That is where your child is now. With the one who loves him(or her) the most. Please know that God did not give your child this illness. I know that you are angry with Him, but, He is not the one who made your child sick. I pray that you find comfort in my words, and I know that there is probably nothing anyone says to you right now that will comfort you. One thing we do have, though, is the Blessed Hope. We know that when we leave this world, we will be with Him. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. And you can find hope in knowing that you will see your child again, if you choose Jesus. A child automatically goes to heaven when they die. They are not accountable, because they are too young to understand, so God makes a way for them. An adult, however, must make a choice. I pray that your anger will subside, and you will turn to the God who totally loves you. God Bless

Answer 3

The fact is, is that HUMAN BEINGS are responsible for the rise of childhood cancer, and not "God". Even as recently as a hundred years ago, childhood cancer was VERY RARE, now they have whole hospitals dedicated to it! We live in a "toxic soup" of industrial waste; accordingly , the cancer statistics are OFF THE SCALE! "God" is not poisoning the environment ; WE ARE DOING IT TO OURSELVES. So, why blame God? Rather, blame BIG BUSINESS, who dumps their garbage into the seas and lakes and into underground waste dumps that then leak and pollute the water table. BLAME OURSELVES, who live lives full of toxic substances leaching from things we believe we "can't live without". This is the true 'catch' behind "Free Will"; God leaves us free to live our lives however we wish; we cannot then scream "Foul!" when the consequences of those actions catch up with us, or with those we love!

Also, however much we love our children the hard fact is, is that we all die, sooner or later; being an "innocent child" does not exempt anyone. Even the "Son of God" had to die a painful, unjust death, don't forget! Everyone has their own karma; some of us will die sooner, some of us will die later. There is an apocryphal tale that a woman begged the Buddha to resurrect her dead son; he told her he could not do so unless she brought him a handful of rice from a house that had not suffered from the death of a loved one. The woman went around everywhere but could not find such a house; all had suffered the loss of a loved one at some point, and thus she finally had to accept the death of her child.

I can recommend a book if you wish; it describes the after death processes and explains it very well from a Western Esoteric perspective. It is "Through the Gates of Death" by Dion Fortune. You will learn for yourself that death is not "the end", it is merely the shedding of the physical shell. You WILL see your child again, have no fear!

Answer 4

True story:
A 4 year old little boy named Eli was beaten on a daily basis by his father and his mother just allow it to happen. The grandmother had called police and CPS several times and even showed pics of the child's bruises. CPS and the police would remove the child for a few days then let him go back home. This went on for over a year until the child was kicked so hard by the father he died.
When I read that story I was outraged! I couldn't believe that a God of love would allow this to happen (this WAS before I was saved). It at the time gave me more ammo to hate this God for taking a helpless child like that.
Through the trail of little Eli, the CPS in that county went under a very stern investigation and in that process around 100 children where saved from abuse that was happening in their homes or in foster care.
It took about 4 years after that (about a year after I got saved) to understand something...God may have taken Eli away from his grandmother and family, but with Eli's death 100's of children were saved.
I don't know why you child had cancer. I don't know why a man could hate his own child enough to kill him, but understand this, for every bad there is a good.
No one can know what type of pain you are going through, and no mere words or story on YA will take the pain away, but I do know and believe that God has a reason for everything whether we understand it or not.
Even if you never believe, try not to let your lost take away the hope of tomorrow. What will it hold? I don't know. But I do know that not letting go of pain will destroy us.Would you child want that? Live for his memory and with his memory. Don't let his passing destroy the great memories you have of him.
Like it or not, I will be praying for you...

Answer 5

I'm sorry for your loss. I know what it's like to lose someone. As for that person's reply I don't see why they think you're not a christian, you obviously are if you asked god to save your child. I don't believe in the christian god but since you do maybe he thought taking your child to heaven would in a sense spare him from the pain. It's sad that it caused you pain though and I'm sorry for all the horrible replys you've gotten. And I hope you don't find this offensive because I don't mean for it to be.

Answer 6

I'm sincerely sorry for your lost. Having children of my own I can not imagine such an unbearable lost. You are correct the Bible does say "ask and ye shall receive." However God does what is right. If we like it or not. We can not pray our way out of trials all our life. Prayer does certain things, but this of course implies not that prayer as a human means accomplishes anything, but that prayer only accomplishes things instrumentally. Prayer is the instrument, God is the efficient and active agent. So that prayer in itself does not interfere in earths affairs, but prayer in the hands of men moves God to intervene and do things, which He would not otherwise do if prayer was not used as the instrument. Such as giving your child comfort, strength and warmth in his time of need. I fear that your faith in God has failed since you are looking for answers from atheists. MOST OF ALL KNOW THIS, God did Not give your child cancer, we live in a fallen world where unfortunately bad things happen every day. God was not trying to spare your child from misfortune. I am sure your child would have had a wonderful life with you. But Please! Take comfort in knowing that your child IS in Heaven. All children come to the Lord. And what a better father to raise your child than God himself. Please have faith in God and take comfort in knowing that one day you will see your child again.

Answer 7

all I can say is I'm sorry for your loss.

you seem like an intelligent individual so I have a question for you.

you already know the answer so why are you asking this on yahoo answers?

whatever your religion, god had nothing to do with it.

thiests will say something like "god works in mysterious ways" or come up with some cockamaime answer like the one you got above.

athiests will point out that there is no god.

fact of the matter is that you should probably not be dealing with this issue on YA and should be grieving and not question the "why" only that it happened, whatever the reason behind it and try to do the best you can to grieve and heal.

I would suggest maybe finding a support group for yourself to see that you are not alone.

Answer 8

Yes. The problem is that Christians often start with the premise "Everything that happens happens because it's part of God's divine plan" so they feel the need to give all the horrible things that happen a reason.

I am sorry about your child, what you experienced is something so painful I couldn't even imagine it. For somebody to trivialize it by saying that it "spared your child of misfortune" and implying that God needed to take your son away from you is absolutely horrific.

Answer 9

I am so sorry for your loss. No one can no how you feel unless they have been through what you have. There are unfortunately no right answers here.
I do believe in God but I would not go as far as that person did. It is infuriating! How can someone believe that and still believe in God. That is what is wrong with these fanatics. THEY ARE PSYCHO and need pills! It is just like those stupid people that think homosexuality is bad and go to a funeral to protest. It is sacriligious! I don't see how God can agree with that!

Answer 10

It seems to be Jesus who only take care of christian and let others suffering torture. These christian must be a stingy selfishes. When christ hung on cross to save the whole world people who were not totally a believers either.
Your child come to you and gone was a chance to be son and father. These are you and your child karmas.