Jewish folks! Does the Old Testament say anywhere that God has a son?

Question

I have found a scripture in Proverbs 30:4 that I believe makes reference to God's son. It says, "Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who has gathered up the wind in the hollow of his hands? Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and the name of his son? Tell me if you know!"

I do not know how this scripture is interpreted by Jewish folk. If any Orothodox Jewish folks are out there and know this I would greatly appreciate any information! Always good to hear from them because they are very smart about Old Testament! I admire their vast knowledge and they have given me great insight on more than one topic! I am asking with great respect,so please no hateful answers! May the Lord bless you!

Answer 1

Nope- in the Jewish belief, the concept of God physically manifesting and having a son is paganistic and completely contrary to everything we believe. The idea of God having a son also goes against two extremely important beliefs in Judaism:
1) That God made his law eternal and to never change- as it stated in Devarim (Deuteronomy) Chapter 13
2) That God is infallible and never errs- the concept that the law is too difficult and thus God changed his mind and sent his son to redeem us is completely the opposite of that belief!

Now to the verse in Mishlei that you quote:
"Who ascended to heaven"- this refers to Moses who ascended Mt Sinai to receive the Torah from God. It is related in the Midrash that the heavens descended so that the throne of Glory on which God sits was a mere handsbreath from Moses head- thus Moses ascended towards the heavens, as they descended to greet him.
"Who gathered wind in his fists? Who wrapped the waters in a garment? " - Refers to the miracles God wrought at the hands of Moses- the first in Egypt the second to the splitting of the Red Sea.
"Who established all the ends of the earth?" - this refers to the building of the tabernacle. It is taught by the Rabbis, and expanded on in the pesikta d'Rav Eliezer that the building of the Tabernacle was the completion of the world- thus the building of the Tabernacle by Moses is the desert was the establishment of all the ends of the earth.
"What is his name and what is the name of his son,"- Who else has done anything else like this? What other prophet has arisen to do what Moses do- if you know- then speak his name, and the name if his son and his household.
"if you know?"- If you know all this, that Moses was the messenger of God, that he ascended to the Heavens to receive the Torah, that God performed miracles through him, that there is no other like him- then, if you know all this, how can you go against his words and transgress the commandments of God?

Answer 2

(Proverbs 30:4) Who has ascended to heaven that he may descend? Who has gathered the wind in the hollow of both hands? Who has wrapped up the waters in a mantle? Who has made all the ends of the earth to rise? What is his name and what the name of his son, in case you know?

And..

(Proverbs 8:22-31) “Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago. 23 From time indefinite I was installed, from the start, from times earlier than the earth. 24 When there were no watery deeps I was brought forth as with labor pains, when there were no springs heavily charged with water. 25 Before the mountains themselves had been settled down, ahead of the hills, I was brought forth as with labor pains, 26 when as yet he had not made the earth and the open spaces and the first part of the dust masses of the productive land. 27 When he prepared the heavens I was there; when he decreed a circle upon the face of the watery deep, 28 when he made firm the cloud masses above, when he caused the fountains of the watery deep to be strong, 29 when he set for the sea his decree that the waters themselves should not pass beyond his order, when he decreed the foundations of the earth, 30 then I came to be beside him as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day, I being glad before him all the time, 31 being glad at the productive land of his earth, and the things I was fond of were with the sons of men.

This descibes Jesus as the very first of God's creations.

Answer 3

No, the Bible (my Bible, what Christians call the "Old Testament") nowhere says that G-d has a son. The passage in Proverbs that you mention is interpreted exactly the opposite--that no one is so great that they can do what G-d has done, which is what this passage describes. The text is written in an ironic style.

Answer 4

A Psalm of David. The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at My right hand Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet." Psalm 110

Answer 5

Isaiah 9:6,7
Isaiah 7:14
Hosea 11:1
Psalm 2:7

Answer 6

The Jewish idea of God is that God is One and Indivisible. We cannot divide God up into separate parts, where each part of God is UnEqual to each of the other parts, but somehow they are one and the same. The Hebrew Scriptures describes God as an absolute One, but the Christian's New Testament describes the Christian idea of God as divisible into three parts called a trinity. In the Christian's New Testament, Jesus at one point claims to have different knowledge than other parts of the Christian Trinity. For example, Matthew 24:36 or Mark 13:32. In another verse, Jesus does not have the same power as other parts of the Christian Trinity, for example, Luke 23:34. And in Matthew 26:42, Jesus's will is not the same as the will of the Father. Indeed, Jesus often contrasted himself with the Father, for example, in John 14:28, or Luke 18:19. Furthermore, Jesus supposedly said that the punishment for blaspheming against one part of the Trinity is not the same punishment for blaspheming against another part of the Trinity. In the Hebrew Scriptures, however, God is One, as we read in Deuteronomy 6:4, as well as in Isaiah 44:6, where God tells us, "I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." When Isaiah tells us that God said, "I am the first," it means that God has no father. When Isaiah tells us that God said, "I am the last," it means that God has no literal son. And when Isaiah tells us that God said, "Besides me there is no God," it means that God does not share being God with any other god, or demi-god, or semi-god, or persons, and there is no trinity.
It is the hallmark of pagan, idolatrous faiths, to confuse God with human beings, either that God becomes human, or that humans become God. In Biblical history, one sees this confusion with Pharaoh, and with Haman (boo, hiss!), as well as with Antiochus, the Assyrian King against whom the Maccabbees rebelled. Furthermore, as one example, in Hosea 11:9 God tell us, "For I am God and not a man."
Christians identify Messiah with Jesus and define him as God incarnated as a man, and believe he died for the sins of humanity as a blood sacrifice. This means that one has to accept the idea that one person's death can atone for another person's sins. However, this is opposed to what the Bible says in Deuteronomy 24:26, "Every man shall be put to death for his own sin," which is also expressed in Exodus 32:30-35, and Ezekiel 18. The Christian idea of the messiah also assumes that God wants, and will accept, a human sacrifice. After all, it was either Jesus-the-god who died on the cross, or Jesus-the-human. Jews believe that God cannot die, and so all that Christians are left with in the death of Jesus on the cross, is a human sacrifice. However, in Deuteronomy 12:30-31, God calls human sacrifice an abomination, and something He hates: "for every abomination to the Eternal, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods." All human beings are sons or daughters, and any sacrifice to God of any human being would be something that God would hate. The Christian idea of the messiah consists of ideas that are UnBiblical.

Answer 7

john 3:16

god sent his only begotten son so that whosoever believes in him shall bot perish but have everlasting life

Answer 8

I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. - Psa 2:7

Quoted in the New Testament in direct context of Jesus Christ:

God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. - Acts 13:33

Answer 9

according to the Torah, all Jews are considered G-d's son

Answer 10

I suggest you reread that, it isnt saying G-d has a son, it is showing that no one is like G-d.