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Such as
1. Women can not become preists.
2. Bad people go to hell (Everyone goes to heaven, God loves everyone)
3. We shall not be preoccupied with anything besides God
4. Gay people go to hell
5. Everyone shall bow down before God (He is humble, not a monarchial jerk)
and alot more that would take hours to list.

2007-07-31 16:41:17 · 18 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I am Catholic

2007-07-31 17:00:20 · update #1

18 answers

Not on these points necessarily, but since you ask sincerely, I'll answer sincerely:

(1) The reasons against women becoming priests are primarily doctrinal. That doesn't mean they're incorrect, but reason can be found to amend them.

(2) Final damnation for the wicked is a lot harder to amend. This is a doctrine that is supported by Scripture, as well as the writings of the Early Fathers (Ignatius of Antioch in particular, as early as the 1st century, along with Justin Martyr and Augustine later on). Plus, logically, if men are judged neither by faith nor by works, then Jesus's grace has pardoned all sinners by removing the existence of crimes. It's a little like solving the illegal drug problem by making all drugs legal. Without such punishment, we have no need to seek sanctification, no need to imitate Christ, and much of Scripture and Tradition go away. At that point, would we even be Catholic?

(3) I don't think that's the preaching of the Church. God should be our center, our focus, and nothing should interfere with our relationship with the Lord (ooh, a Catholic just said "relationship" - it is what Christ seeks, after all). That said, a relationship doesn't require possessiveness, but rather mindfulness.

(4) Strictly speaking, persistent, unrepentant licit sex condemns one to Hell. That includes adulterers, fornicators, etc. Being gay, but not engaging in homosexual actions, is not condemnatory in and of itself. yeah, I know that doesn't leave a lot of room for "being" gay. I'm straight, haven't thought much about this one. But I am glad to see the gay members of our congregation in Church, not from the perspective of "making them straight" but rather to see that they are practicing their faith. All of us sinners need to practice our faith.

(5) I disagree totally with you on this. If God acts in humility, He does it out of strength. God is Almighty, omnipotent and omniscient, the Creator of all, the Ancient of Days, the Glory and the Power, all Holy and Everliving. He's the only one whom we should bow to - and our genuflections and gestures of respect towards the sanctuary during Mass reflect this, signs of respect for His Presence. When you see the Lord in Heaven (since you believe everyone goes to Heaven), you'll want to fall on your knees, too.


My biggest disagreement with official teaching has to do with the "Protestants lack the mechanisms of salvation" deal. I don't think that - I've found too much grace from my Protestant friends to believe that they don't participate in the redemption of Christ's salvific work.

2007-08-01 09:44:42 · answer #1 · answered by Veritatum17 6 · 0 0

I think it is good that you question your faith. You could possibly look into the questions you have. Remember, this is the oldest of the christian faiths. You may disagree but I find it somewhat refreshing that the Catholic Religion is sticking to it's beliefs and not caving in to what my be felt as politically correct or what the majority believe. Here's my thoughts about your statements:
1. Once again an old belief that the religion has stuck to.
2. God loves everyone but WE choose if we go to hell or not. God will forgive but if we don't ask for forgiveness then......
3. Its not the idea of being preoccupied by anything but God. Its that God needs to be thought of when we make all of our decisions (WWJD)
4. This one I struggle with as well. Not in that gay people go to hell but the fact that having sex out of wedlock is a sin. Therefore, gays (who can not marry in the Catholic faith) are committing a sin by having sex. No different than straight people who have sex out of wedlock.
5. If you believe in the ten commandments there is one that states "I am the Lord your God, you shall have no other gods but Me" If you believe that He is your God, He is your Lord and Master then bestow on Him what is fitting.

These are just my own thoughts and opinions. I think that you should pursue your questions with your priest.

2007-07-31 23:57:30 · answer #2 · answered by tim O 3 · 0 1

Women cannot become priests. This isn't a rule. It is an article of the faith, based on the example of Christ Himself, Who selected 12 out of 12 men to be the first priests of His Church. Therefore the Church does not have the authority to change this.

Of course those who reject God go to hell! Jesus said so, repeatedly!

God is to be first in our lives. That doesn't mean we cannot have other interests. It just means that something else cannot be our god.

The Church does not teach that homosexual people go to hell. Just people who reject God. Some homosexuals do reject God. So do some heterosexuals.

Someone who refuses to bow before God is at great risk for being counted among those who will go to hell. Pride commeth before the fall.

2007-07-31 23:55:31 · answer #3 · answered by PaulCyp 7 · 1 1

i am catholic and i cannot say that i disagree with them completely. there are reasons behind most of the things you stated but at the same time they dont totally make sense to me. im really still on my way to discovering religion and spirituality. im 15 but i have been thinking about a lot of these issues and im kinda torn.

btw i dont think gay people go to hell unless maybe they act on it (still i cannot say for sure, God judges), also people should be God-fearing. oh yeah we can do a lot of other things in life but God should be the center of it, and shouldnt be drowned out by everything else going on.
reading your post again im kinda seeing that you might have some of the wrong ideas.

2007-07-31 23:48:31 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Cafeteria style dining means to pick and choose what food to take from a cafeteria line.

The term "Cafeteria Christians" refers to people who view Christianity like a cafeteria where one picks and chooses only those beliefs that appeal to them and reject a genuine interpretation of Christian doctrine and the teachings of Jesus.

The term "Cafeteria Catholics" is similar. It is used to describe people who dissent from certain teachings of the Catholic Church while maintaining an outward identity as Catholics.

In Los Angeles in 1987, Pope John Paul II said: "It has to be noted that there is a tendency on the part of some Catholics to be selective in their adherence to the Church's moral teaching. It is sometimes claimed that dissent from the magisterium is totally compatible with being a "good Catholic," and poses no obstacle to the reception of the Sacraments. This is a grave error that challenges the teaching of the Bishops in the United States and elsewhere."

Heresy is the obstinate denial after Baptism of a truth which must be believed with with divine and Catholic faith.

"Cafeteria Catholics" in denial of certain truths are in danger of committing heresy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cafeteria_Christianity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cafeteria_Catholic

By the way, your numbers 2, 3, and 4 are not Catholic doctrine.

+ With love in Christ.

2007-08-01 00:08:34 · answer #5 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0 1

i gave up on my faith a long time ago. sorry to say that but it's true. i dont think women should become priests...heaven or hell is obsolete, even though the bible says bad people go to hell the doctrine says that as long as we repent we are guaranteed a place in heaven. its a hypocritical statement...i have so much other stuff going on in my life i dont have time for church anymore, plus i'm not sure what i believe...many of my best friends are gay so they better...god is not that humble of a person...so no

2007-07-31 23:52:24 · answer #6 · answered by bandgeek354 2 · 0 1

I don't disagree with the Catholic Church, but I disagree with your post that that's what the Church teach about gay people.


homosexuality is not a sin, unless it's an act.

2007-07-31 23:51:06 · answer #7 · answered by Perceptive 5 · 2 1

If you disagree with the catholic doctrine, find a nice protestant church. That's what Luther said, and that's what most people did. God luck to you brother. Peace to you and all that is.

2007-07-31 23:44:13 · answer #8 · answered by Your hero until you meet Jesus 3 · 3 0

Women can NOT be priests - this is not going to change, get over it.

Only God decides who goes to hell.

I live my life to Glorify God in all I do.

Only God decides who goes to hell.

Everyone will bow down before God one day, He is the King of everything.

****

I do not disagree with the Church about anything you listed here (nor have I found anything that I do disagree with her about), sorry.

2007-07-31 23:47:00 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

For a Catholic to Disagree with some of the Catholic Churches Doctrine IS NORMAL !

Even though MOST Catholics DisAGREE with Some of the Church Beliefs AND Know about Priests Molesting Children they STILL GO to Church and EVEN HAVE the Audacity to STILL THINK that their Religion is the TRUE ONE ! ! !

Why is this?

Because the Priests TICKLE the FLOCK's ears AND TELL them "WHAT THEY WANT" to hear ! ! !

2007-08-01 00:01:37 · answer #10 · answered by . 7 · 0 3

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