Don't you find it weird that the military is granting waivers to rercruits who have criminal records but...

Question

not to recruits that are legally in the States but on a temporary visa? and who speak Arabic?
http://ap.lancasteronline.com/4/military_recruits_waivers
A friend of mine has been living here for about 3 years and he wants to join as a soldier translator aide. He's on a tourist visa. He contacted three recruiters and asked them if he can join. They all said no. He even asked them if they could sign a waiver, but they said they can't....he has to be a permanent citizen. They let dangerous criminals in but won't let someone who has a clean background and who is willing to help the soldiers with his Arabic. Does this make any sense to you?

I agree with satcomgrunt and here to help!

Answer 1

no i dont find it wierd american soldiers want other americans watching their back
nothing against foriegn citizens who speak arabic but i dont want one watching my back in a war zone i'll feel like i have to keep an eye on him

as far as mexican citizens joining the american army i have no problem with that we arent at war with mexico and most of them live in the u.s. as permanent residents and joined to help get their citizenship

Answer 2

If you look back to the Second World War all branches of the military gave "second chances or waivers" to recruits who had criminal records.It's also in the literature that one said soldier with a colorful past was a body guard for a scientist on the Manhattan Project. Evidently that come off pretty well.What this says is that,everyone CAN make a mistake,what better way to get it right than to be in a structured regimented environment.Lets not be so naive as to think that the military will give a get out of jail free card to machine gun toting gangbanger crack heads,and that just because you are squeeky clean you won't fall off either.You're really over simplifying the concept.

It's abundantly clear that a temp. visa is weak at best.If said individuals that really want to do the right thing then go through the proper channels and serve accordingly.

MJA ,Capt. USA(Ret)

Answer 3

OK, again a civilian who does not know what they are talking about. The military does grant waivers for some, not all, criminal issue. Smoking pot or shoplifting when you were 13 are not huge issues, but still need waivers. Why is your friend still in this country in the first place??? Three years on a tourist visa seems pretty criminal to me. What's their address so we can have the Department of Homeland Security come check them out. The masterminds behind 9-11 all had clear records too. THINK ABOUT THAT instead of the petty crap you just brought up here. The military doesn't allow ANY dangerous criminals to enlist or people on a "tourist" visa.

Answer 4

First, your friend is on a tourist visa. One of the rules of a tourist visa is that you don't work. If your friend had a green card, he would be allowed to join the military.
Second, please remember that all felonies are not dangerous. Some states even classify drug possession and DUI as felonies. As the article you referenced states, the waiver program exists "as a way to admit young people who may have made a mistake early in life but have overcome past behavior." Trust me, they won't admit dangerous felons.

Just as a suggestion, has your friend considered working with the military as a civilian? Just a thought.

Answer 5

Not being able to work on a tourist visa is not an issue that comes from the military. Even if the military wanted to do this, current rules do not allow it. If he can get a working visa, he might get a different response...it's at least worth checking out.

Answer 6

It makes sense to me,having a clean background is no guarantee the person has never been in trouble or never will.To work for the military in the USA. you must be an american citizen not only because of paying taxes and the Government picking up the tab on his expenses. The military does not want to take the risk should your friend change sides because of his ancestry.The risks of him spying for his country out weigh the benefits of him working on the behalf of the USA. Think 911, as an example some of the terrorists have gone to school and worked in the USA prior to 911.

Answer 7

The fact is, one must be a permanent US citizen to join the military. Kudos to your friend who wants to volunteer his skills, though.

I can't say as though I disagree with this particular military requirement. It is all about security. I'm sure that your friend is 100% legitimate and that he would only do good. However, there are those out there that would join just to bring devastation and destruction to this country and/or it's soldiers.

I never did like the fact that the military began letting criminals in. It just goes to show what a sad state of affairs we're in.

Answer 8

i'm sorry i comprehend this has been asked numerous cases as I fairly have researched this. and that i comprehend you may get waivers. i comprehend there's a narrow risk of moving into yet i fairly choose to connect the militia. I fairly have for years. So right here is the situation. i'm at the instant 17. gained a minor in possession misdemeanor whilst i grew to become into sixteen. no longer on probation anymore. This i comprehend on my own isn't a extensive situation because of the fact the recruiter informed me that. yet whilst i grew to become into 13 years previous I have been given 2 felonies and a misdemeanor. housebreaking, Malicious harm to property, and undemanding truancy. basing on the respond you gave, you have 2 felonies, and a pair of misdeameanor. thats total of four quotes against you. Im sorry you had a misdeameanor, and your recruiter informed it would be achieveable. DID YOU tell your recruiter which you had 3 greater quotes. You had way too many convictions to be eligible to be in the militia. additionally felonies are pdq from any provider, no longer to show 2 of them. having your information expunged can not be hidden from the militia history examine, they're going to see all your arrests, convictions,fines, detention center time, quotes, regardless in the event that they have been sealed or no longer. No branch is going to take you with considered one of those great sort of quotes, you're too lots of a criminal accountability to the militia. YOU DO comprehend THAT FELONIES ARE UNACCEPTABLE IN enlistment top? additionally, i assume based on your description, you dint tell him approximately your 3 quotes once you have been 13. mendacity approximately some thing of that importance would be fairly perplexing to concealed EDIT: it doesnt rely if he gets a waiver or no longer, his 2 felonies he have been given whilst he grew to become into 13, will immediately Disqualify him in any case

Answer 9

i dont mean to sound mean or anything, but if you look at it from the army's point of view. as you say he has only been here for 3 years, so to find out if he has any kind of criminal back ground will cost too much money, they also already have people in the army to do the job. you might be thinking that the more arabic speakers the better, however they have more than they need, i myself i'm not being used for my arabic language skill and i've been in the army for 6 years.

what i do recomend for him to do if he really wants to help out, is to go to the FBI website and put in an application, they have been known to contract people and pay them good money, he wont be an FBI agent but he will help our country and get paid a lot of a lot of money.

hope this helps.

Answer 10

The majority of the waivers are for rather petty crimes, nothing which actually causes harm to another...as far as I know. It does make sense however only to let citizens join, your friend could probably join one of the interpreter contracting companies and make a HECK of a lot more money though.

Answer 11

They have always granted waivers and if you want to be pure factual the military actually has gotten better because at one time in our countries history all a criminal need do is tell the judge at his/her trial that they wish to enter service than go to prison. The judge would then order the sheriff place this person over to military custody. It is near possible to get that done now.