How do you feel Mexico is ready to file a complaint with the International fences damage environment?

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Mexico has urged the US to alter its plans for expanded fences along their shared border, saying they would damage the environment and harm wildlife.

The fences threaten unique ecosystems, Mexican environment officials warned.

Mexico was ready to file a complaint with the International Court of Justice over the matter if the US did not respond, the environment minister said.

The planned barriers aim to curb illegal immigration, a highly divisive and controversial issue in the US.

The fences, planned along a possible 700 miles (1,125km) of the border, are to be equipped with hi-tech surveillance equipment, including sensors and strong lights.

"The eventual construction of this barrier would place at risk the various ecosystems that we share," Mexico's Environment Minister Juan Rafael Elvira told a news conference.

Those areas include Baja California, Sonora and Arizona, home to one of the world's most important desert ecosystems - the Sonora Desert.

Cactus fences

Officials said Mexico was prepared to file a complaint with the International Court of Justice but wanted to explore alternatives first.

US Army personnel install sections of the US-Mexico border fence July 2007 near Puerto Palomas Mexico. Most of the illegal immigrants enter the US via the Mexico border

A report prepared for the Mexican government by experts and environmental activists from Mexico and the US said the barriers could isolate border animals into smaller groups, affecting their genetic diversity.

These include jaguars, Mexican black bears and the endangered antelope-like Sonora Pronghorn.

The use of intense lights and radar could also affect nocturnal species, they said.

The report suggested ways of minimising environmental damage, including "green corridors" of wilderness without roads.

These would allow wildlife to remain connected but not provide an easy route for people trying to cross.

Another proposal was "live" fences of cactuses, or permeable barriers to allow water, insects and pollen to cross the border.

The US Homeland Security Secretary, Michael Chertoff, has said that the fencing is needed. He has rejected arguments that the Rio Grande provides an adequate barrier as water levels in the river often drop, allowing people to wade across.

An estimated 12 million illegal immigrants are in the US, where attempts at a comprehensive overhaul of immigration law have repeatedly stalled in Congress.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6924475.stm

I’m sure the animals will adjust. The birds can fly over, the rodents and lizards can burrow under, and the rest of them will just have to make do with whatever piece of that desert they find themselves in after the fence is finished. They make it sound as if the poor things will need conjugal visits.
The fences threaten unique ecosystems,

Right. The mexican raw sewage deoes not “threaten unique ecosystems”

The hundreds of mexican trash piles in national forests located on the mexican border does not threaten unique ecosystems.

The foot trails that go through restricted wildlife areas do not threaten unique ecosystems

The border industries that have little to no pollution control do not threaten unique ecosystems.

I bet our fellow Americans can post photos of various Mexican items not threatening unique ecosystems.

But, of course, a stainless steel/galvanized steel professionally installed fencing system will cause immediate, extensive, catastrophic, irreversible harm to those very same unique ecosystems
It couldn’t be as harmful as hundreds of thousands of people throwing trash everywhere and stomping down fragile vegetation.

Answer 1

Their abuse of our eco system really bothers me a lot. Have you seen the videos and such? I was so appalled at the sight, they were saying how much it stank! I don't think they have any regard for our eco system. I'd be happy to bring in the photos and videos as evidence for the Mexican government! This may be my pet peeve!

Answer 2

I think that even if she got drunk and ran her car up the stairs of the White House the Democowards would turn it into some sort of Anti Bush thing. Kerry would try the same stunt next election and say he was having flash backs of Vam when he was in his gun boat, however his thunder would be taken away because during all the fuss Secret Service stumbles in and finds Rosie O'Donnell in the sack with Hillary. Hillary is reelected, and Rosie becomes Secretary of Defense. Rosie orders all M1A1 Tanks to have flowers put in the barrels and Soldiers have to watch re runs of "The View". Hillary using "white out" on the 2nd Amendment and has house to house searches for guns and knifes, they are all melted down to make a big steel wall around her home. The blood groove is removed from all American Military bayonets on her orders so that in her words "You get time to think about what you did". Rosie and Hillary force an open gay military and fire all who oppose it in the military, 90% of top brass is fired, military recrute numbers fall so she forces a draft and truns all willing jailed cons to active duty. Iran takes over the middle east killing thousands of UN and American Troops. The next day she blames Bush. Most America accept it asBush's falt for everything. His dead body is dug up and burned in Time Square. Canada reports nuke strikes on America.

Answer 3

Americans have the same complaints. There are many groups in Texas especially that are trying to stop the fence, since 1 - it won't work, 2 - it'll kill all kinds of wildlife.

The government isn't listening, as usual. So much for democracy.

Answer 4

"The fence will prevent ..."water and insects" from crossing..." Insects??? Those "insects" must be monsters! By all means, keep them out! I'm really scared now! Oh, yes, and the "killer" pollen.

Answer 5

what's your point? Because I don't see what Mexico filing that complaint has to do with immigration?? It's about the environment not immigration. But I can see you tried to tie it in with the immigration issue but it's not working for me.

Answer 6

Simple. Build the fence 1 foot further north than we had originally intended. Problem solved. We then aren't affecting anyone's "shared" land.

Answer 7

Mexico's opinion is irrelevant.
The 2000 Mile Fence will be built maybe not today or tomorrow but soon.
The way of life in America now and for future generations depends on this secure fence.

http://www.weneedafence.com
http://www.immigrationcounters.com
http://www.numbersusa.com

Answer 8

Not any US citizen or owner along the border wants the fence in the first place and you are forgetting that most of that land is private owned, it is going to divide the University of Texas right in two so what is your solution for getting the kids to math class? Are you just going to by default give the entire university of Texas to Mexico? Does the Rio Grande then automatically revert to their ownership? What about the Indian reservation you plan on dividing with the fence as well? have you thought you might need their permission as well? You can't march on reservation land and make demands of land that doesn't belong to you and if you go on a Texas farmer or rancher's land and make those same demands you are likely to find your butt filled with buckshot.

Answer 9

You have to hand it to Mexico, they have no shame exporting to the USA, their poverty while trying to hid behind the concern for the ecosystem. I would tell them to go hug a tree

Answer 10

Build all the fences you want, waste of money and they will never work, If you hire undocumented to do the work it will get done faster.