NOTHING Jews consider SCRIPTURE was removed.
Sandy: Did you know your "vitally important phrase" from 1John 5 was UNKNOWN before the 14th century. So the verse you claim was "removed" was not in ANY manuscript for over 1200 YEARS AFTER 1John was written.
Not in any Greek manuscript.
Not in any Latin manuscript.
Not in ANY manuscript of ANY TRANSLATION of the New Testament.
How then can this OBVIOUSLY SPURIOUS ADDITION BE "VITALLY IMPORTANT?"
2007-07-31 12:36:51
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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In the 2nd Century BCE, the Hebrew scriptures were translated into Greek for the Greek-speaking Jews of Alexandria, Egypt and elsewhere in the civilized world. But at a rabbinical council in 90 CE, when the canon of Jewish scripture was finalized, it was discovered that the Greek version, known as the Septuagint, had books for which Hebrew equivalents could not be found. They could not determine how extra books could be added in Greek, or whether the Hebrew originals were lost, but they decided that only books with surviving Hebrew versions could be included, mainly because they appeared to have been written after the time of Ezra, which was their cutoff line for inspiration. (Some books, such as Daniel, snuck in by dint of literally claiming to be written before then.)
However, everyone else in the civilized world spoke Greek. So the people who became the Christian Church used the Septuagint as their bible, not the Hebrew. No one noticed a difference until Jerome began to translate the Bible into Latin and discovered the irregularity. Not sure what to do, he had everything translated, but separated the Greek parts from the Hebrew parts, in case anyone cared to know the difference. He called the "new" section "Apocrypha" ("hidden").
When Martin Luther was figuring out how to distinguish Protestantism from Romanism, he turned to the Bible for validation. And for the most part it came through. However, in the Apocrypha, whose books reflected a later and more Greek-influenced understanding of the Jewish faith, Luther found some ideas that didn't fit his idea of Christianity (such as prayer for the dead). So he conveniently ejected the lot of them, using the Jewish reasoning. (He was also not fond of the Letter of James, but had no convenient excuse to use for its dismissal.)
Since then, the Catholics have relentlessly hung on to the extra books and the Protestants have just as relentlessly condemned them. Only the Church of England seems to have trouble deciding. The books and portions don't really add a lot to Judeo-Christian understanding. There are hero stories and folk tales, a prophetic lament or two, some prayerful padding of other works, even a couple of detective stories. But there is just enough controversy to keep people feuding.
2007-07-31 13:12:40
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answered by skepsis 7
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Nothing has been removed from the Hebrew Bible. If you want to know what was removed/added to the Christian Bible, study about Constantine and the canonization of the Christian Bible. That's when the "church" created the Nicene creed and decided that Jesus was divine. Anyone who didn't believe what was considered to be Orthodoxy, was considered to be a heretic and was exterminated. Of course, you know who the most obvious culprits were -- the Jews!
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2007-07-31 12:52:57
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answered by Hatikvah 7
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I'm not Jewish, but i hope i can still be of service to you. 40 WHOLE Bible verses were deleted in the NIV.
Matthew 12:47 -- removed in the footnotes
Matthew 17:21 -- COMPLETELY
Matthew 18:11 -- COMPLETELY removed
Matthew 21:44 -- removed in the footnotes
Matthew 23:14 -- COMPLETELY removed
Mark 7:16 -- COMPLETELY removed
Mark 9:44 -- COMPLETELY removed
Mark 9:46 -- COMPLETELY removed
Mark 11:26 -- COMPLETELY removed
Mark 15:28 -- COMPLETELY removed
Mark 16:9-20 (all 12 verses)
Luke 17:36 -- COMPLETELY removed
Luke 22:44 -- removed in the footnotes
Luke 22:43 -- removed in the footnotes
Luke 23:17 -- COMPLETELY removed
John 5:4 -- COMPLETELY removed
John 7:53-8:11 -- removed in the footnotes
Acts 8:37 -- COMPLETELY removed
Acts 15:34 -- COMPLETELY removed
Acts 24:7 -- COMPLETELY removed
Acts 28:29 -- COMPLETELY removed
Romans 16:24 -- COMPLETELY removed
I John 5:7 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed
2007-07-31 12:37:59
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answered by Sandy 2
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I know that there is a book called the Apocrypha (?sp). That has the books that were thought to be not important enough to be added as scripture.
Strangely enough, most other Christians are all upset because they say that my religion added to the bible. What they fail to see is that the bible was compiled by a bunch of men sitting around deciding what was important enough to keep, and what wasn't.. don't you think that's a double standard?
2007-07-31 12:57:28
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answered by odd duck 6
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Martin Luther removed 7 books from the Catholic Bible to create the Protestant Bible.
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2007-07-31 12:57:01
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answered by Anonymous
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There's a whole bunch of it that got left out. When people were deciding what do include and what to leave out (what is canon and what isn't) they made their decision based on four or five rules.
I do not remember all of them, but one of them was that the thing had to be written in Greek. So since a ton of people spoke Latin and Hebrew and Arabic at the time, anything written in those languages (presumably quite a lot) was left out.
2007-07-31 12:33:32
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answered by Rat 7
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I have a book called the Gnostic Bible with writings left out of the Bible---is that what you meant? --- Blessings!
2007-07-31 12:34:29
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answered by Native Spirit 6
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LOL
the part that says that judaism has been minced and is no longer what it should be and that all jews are to convert to christianity because jesus was sent to deliver the message clear-cut without any of the hocus-pocus crap they added onto the message moses revealed.
sadly enough i'm being serious. i actually think that's the part.
2007-07-31 12:33:48
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answered by thepenpal 4
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Large amounts have been added or removed. I'll guess the Jewish Apocrypha are what you are referring to.
2007-07-31 12:33:32
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answered by novangelis 7
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