Ok, so what if Evolution did happen?

Question

So what? How did it happen, and if you tell me that it was natural selection, then tell me why nature is so selective. Is that just the way it is? Nature is some how so smart that it somehow developed the most basic life-form just by pure unbelievably dumb luck? Then it just started selecting what was good and what was bad? And where did the planet come from in the first place? Oh, it just happened to land in JUST the right spot exactly for life to form, after some sort of explosion or something? And where did you the universe come from? When I ask these questions, you say "evolution has nothing to do with origins, blah blah..."- yeah, exactly.

So stop trying to use it to assault people who believe in God. Evolution doesn't prove or disprove anything with regards to God or religion.

Even Darwin was a deist.

Answer 1

I like it! I'm doing the latest Ban Ki Moon dance in my desk right now. I can because the CFO ( Nurse Mildred Ratched) it out of the office right now. Please ask God to have space aliens abduct her and take her to Marklar! Please!!! jr

Answer 2

First of all, you're right: evolution, and all the science that goes with it, don't disprove God. They only disprove the bible's description of natural history.

Your question about natural selection is a good one. One of the biggest mistakes, (or sometimes deliberate misrepresentations), of the fundies is that natural selection is random. If this were true, then life would never have started. But the word "selection" gives us a clue. Nature selects but doesn't think. People have a hard time buying this until they understand the mechanism of natural selection. The traits which aid survival the best will become prevalent in a population after a certain number of generations. Then those traits will be refined even more through competition. The book "The Blind Watchmaker," is a great discussion of that very point.

Go to wikipedia and look up natural selection. There are many good sites which explain the process and show how it is neither intelligent nor random.

Answer 3

"...so smart that it somehow developed the most basic life-form just by pure unbelievably dumb luck..."

Do you see the contradiction here? Nature is not intelligent, it is not dumb. Nature is a description of the world around us and the processes within it. Nature is not a sentient being, it just is. Natural selection is a description of survivability, those organisms best adapted to their specific environmental niche survive better and pass along their genes at a higher rate. Also, mutations in the genetic material occur randomly and some of these may actually benefit the organism, some may be neutral and some may be detrimental. Variation is the engine that drives evolution. Eventually, over a long time, or over a shorter time in event of an environmental crisis, organisms change. No intelligence is necessary.

Answer 4

Evolution did happen.

Natural selection simply means that if you don't reproduce you don't pass on your genes. If you're outcompeted you become extinct. No intelligence required.

Of course, your rant goes onto other issues such as abiogenesis and cosmology, but without the benefit of a cogent question, so I'll skip over those for now and get to the ultimate answer.

Evolution indicates that life could exist without the need for a god. That is the relevant point to atheism. Further, physical evidence trumps literal Biblical Creation.

Answer 5

Evolution did happen, and you are right in that it does not disprove God. I don't believe in God but that's based on other observations. Millions of Christians believe evolution happened, and other religions. Those who don't are mostly USA.

This planet was in just the right spot for life, yes. Thousands of other planets (orbiting stars other than the Sun) have been discovered that are not.

Creatures less equipped for survival tend to die out more. That's the way it's always been.

I think you feel quite threatened by the concept of evolution. Why is that?

Answer 6

First off, your question is fallacious. You're asking about something biological (evolution) and asking for an answer which encompasses other disciplines (astronomy, geology, physics), so right then your question is problematic. Also, evolution continues to happen. Evolution is observed fact. The Theory of Evolution explains the observed evidence in a large framework that has withstood 150 years of scientific inquiry.

Secondly, evolution says nothing about God and/or any religion. On the contrary, it is the religious folk who feel threatened by people doing honest science and then inject their misguided religious views in a scientific debate.

Lastly, the Theory of Evolution, like all good scientific theories is falsifiable. No one has yet falsified it though. If someone does ever falsify it, it still doesn't offer evidence of Intelligent Design/Creation. You still have to provide evidence and scientific testing using scientific means to validate either of those religious concepts.

Answer 7

Science is about trying to understand the world, and trying to find the answers to the questions you ask. Religion teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world. The religious point of view often seems to be that if you don't understand something, or if you don't have the answer then it must be proof of god. That's an easy way out of having to think.

Answer 8

I like Captain Atheists Answer.

It messes with my head too, and well origin theorys, not that I have the mind to really understand them seem a bit well... pointless to me.

Some say there are 5 universes all expanding. and I say so in other words: They just are. I have yet to meet a theory that seems "justified" regarding existance in its entirety.

I am a Deist that see Evolution as clearly apparent, but I still don't get why peptides advanced.

Answer 9

if you had a halfway decent understanding of evolution and science generally i personally couldn't care less if you believe in god or not. perhaps the situation would improve if you and people like you would stop proving with every statement you make that those two things so often go together. it does force one to think that belief in god is the source of the problem.

Answer 10

It proves that Adam and Eve and the garden of Eden are a myth.

Therefore, there is no Original Sin, and no need for forgiveness, or for sacrifices, or for a messiah.

Therefore, it completely collapses Abrahamic faith.


Hadn't thought of that, eh?

(My point being, even if there is a god, it's obviously not the Abrahamic one, and no one should be concerned about hell or any other words of this supposed god, because he/she/it has clearly never communicated any commandments to us. Therefore, whether you're a deist or an atheist is really inconsequential.)

Answer 11

Life came about by adapting to ones enviorment and random mutations that sometimes worked. When they didn't then that version died off and the ones that did work lived to breed.

Evolution does disprove your god because it shows we can come about without any form of interference thereby making the idea of intereference incorrect.