Why do people consider it sexist if the US military were to end gender integrated basic training/boot camp?

Question

I am NOT a sexist or a bigot. However, as someone who went through gender integrated basic training at Ft. Jackson, SC, I can tell you this about it.

IT DOES NOT WORK.

The idea behind it was that men and women will work together, so why not train them together? However, IT IS NOT THAT SIMPLE.

You can't put men and women together in a place where they are temporarily deprived of all priveleges and then tell them they can't fraternize and expect everyone to comply. It's not going to happen. Yes, maybe it's a matter of self control, but it's different when you know what someone is going to do.

Another thing is physical limitations. When the males and females got "smoked" together, they had to end it early because of the females, so it wasn't really instilling discpline into the males.

The Marines are the only branch doing it right when it comes to basic/boot camp and gender. Not only is it segragated, but only male DI's train male recruits, while female DI's train females.

You see having the opposite sex train someone can raise issues too.

First, who's more likely to be harder on a female? A male or another female?

Second, not all, but some male army drill sergeants have a goal to see how female reruits
pants they can get into. In fact I know a girl who slept with her drill sergeant several times.

The other issue I saw was male drill sergeants being too scared to be hard on female recruits,
again, not always but sometimes. One of our drill sergeants told us about another drill sergeant who was
falsely accused of sexual harassment by a female recruit when he wouldn't give her permission to use the
phone.

To put it quite simply the military needs to end gender integrated basic training and boot camp.

Answer 1

The purpose of the military is national defense.

All this social engineering equality stuff is fine for private business and government bureaucracy, but if equality crap impacts our readiness adversely, we're right where Pogo put us forty years ago, "We have met the enemy, and he is us."

God help us if the Pentagon is so full of idiots and cowards that they either don't see the error here, or haven't the courage to stand up to any REMF who demands they care about someone's equal opportunities more than being combat ready.

Answer 2

Due to the fact that I did not go to boot camp/basic with females I can honestly say I have noticed a difference in the quality of soldiers produced nowadays. I do not care if I hurt someone’s feeling but I am truly tiered of this equal opportunity BS that woman cry. Sure I have meet woman in my career that can destroy many of men in physical training. But it is few and far between. It is a proven fact that a woman’s body can only handle so much physical activities. Unless the woman has trained in some type of sport or some thing else that has physically conditioned her body to operate on an extremely low body fat scale compared to a woman’s average body fat percentage of 12%. If a woman can handle herself and keep up with the troops so to speck I have no problems. Unfortunately that is not the case. In my unit alone I have seen two women intentionally get pregnant to get out of the service because they did not want to deploy. Woman also have a tendency to use the fact that they are not physical strong enough to handle task that they are ordered to do. The way I see it is woman should be trained separately and there standards should be the same as males. Not like it is now and have lower standards for PT. I am 27 years old just to pass my test I have to get 39 push ups compared to a female the same age she has to get 17, Sit-ups M/F 45, and 2 mile run is M 17min / F 20:38. That’s just the minimum to pass. The max for PU M 77 / F 50, SU M 82 / F 76, And Run time max M 13:18 / F 15:48. IF that seems equal to you than there is no use in me even tiring to make a point? If you want it to work hold everyone to a standard. I have a friend who is 260 pounds and right at 6'4". How many women could carry him off the battle field if he got shot?

Answer 3

I dont know---all I can tell you is I did 4 in the Air Force---and never had any probs at all serving alongside females all the time---I see it as a personal problem that some guys have

Answer 4

though i understand what you mean it is considered sexist because some women want the same opportunities as the men. even down to last little shred they can.