Atheists tend to disprove God by saying: "Well, if God created everything, then what created God?" However, they then say that the Big Bang simply happened, with no prior cause. (Or if they do give you a prior cause, the question remains.... what was that cause's cause?) Atheists usually respond by saying "that question is meaningless, time did not exists before the Big Bang." (Or to quote Stephen Hawking, it's like saying "What's North of the North Pole.", or they say that the Universe has existed eternally. Don't both these arguments apply equally as well to God as to the Big Bang? Asking "what happened before God" Doesn't a theoretical God transcend the limits of space and time as much as a mysterious Big Bang does? And God could as easily be eternal as the universe.
Anyway, I'm wondering what I've overlooked in this argument. Also, please make no assumptions about me or my beliefs. Thank you.
2007-07-31 07:37:28 · 12 answers · asked by robert 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
As an atheist I have no problem to admit that there are things that we can't understand. I've never claimed to know the universal truth, there are lots of things that we don't know or don't understand.
I don't think this argument of "what created God" is a way to disprove the existance of God. Actually the existance of a God can't be disproved, it just seems very unlikely to me.
I agree that no matter if we believe in God or not, the question of the origin of everything remains a problem for which we don't have any better answers than what you wrote in your question.
2007-07-31 07:49:22 · answer #1 · answered by Elly 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, I don't think you've overlooked anything. I've more or less said the same thing for years. If God can be eternal, then the universe can be eternal. If the universe can be eternal, then God can be eternal. God does not have to have a creator. The big bang does not necessarily have to have a creator, either. Who is right? Nobody really knows!
What happens is that atheists and Christians alike create what basically comes down to circular arguments. The premise (God exists or God does not exist) is subtly placed within the question itself. Ultimately, there is no way for atheists to prove that God does not exist, and there is no way for Christians to prove that God does exist. Christians have experiences that lead them to believe in God. Atheists have different experiences. It is futile and downright silly to even have this debate, although I admit I find it very entertaining!
2007-07-31 07:44:46 · answer #2 · answered by Mr. Taco 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
As a practical matter, time is a construct created by man to explain things. The universe exists, with or without time. God, depending on your beliefs, does or does not exist, outside of time. The realitiy is that, even with all of our scientific advances, we truly don't know what is beyond our solar system. So, the best any of us can do is guess. At the end, some of us may be right, some wrong.
2007-07-31 07:54:02 · answer #3 · answered by mikalina 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
According to Jain beliefs, the universe is eternal and without end or beginning, which I found interesting as a spiritual and philosophical belief. They don't embrace God but do embrace the soul and reincarnation. There is heaven and hell. I do find their belief system quite interesting. I appreciate the prophets of the Old Testament and Jesus himself but needed other answers from Eastern religions.
2007-07-31 07:41:19 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
> Atheists tend to disprove God by saying:
This is not claimed to be a disproof. You are not correct.
> However, they then say that the Big Bang simply happened, with no prior cause.
This is also an inaccurate characterization. You seem to misunderstand the viewpoint that you are trying to dispute. Perhaps if you better understood the position that you are disputing, you might adopt it.
2007-07-31 07:48:02 · answer #5 · answered by Fred 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
What I find fascinating about the origin of the universe is that science has done a pretty darn good job explaining it by way of the "Big Bang" theory- yet no scientist can explain just where the materials/gases came from originally that caused the "Big Bang" to occur! The universe is still expanding outward from this event...yet we still don't know (by means of scientific explanation) where the building blocks of the universe actually came from.
2007-07-31 07:43:11 · answer #6 · answered by It's Ms. Fusion if you're Nasty! 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
relies upon on what your definition of "God" is. in case you define "God" as any form of ruling physique, the only ought to assert that the universe itself -- as in the regulations of physics, etc. -- is God. although, in case you notice "God" as which ability any form of smart being, with a sentient information, then no, we can't all be top. whether... if there are various dimensions latest previous the three dimensions that make up our certainty, then any being that exists in 4 or greater dimensions might seem to be all-powerful to us in the third length, on an analogous time as being thoroughly constrained in his or her very own certainty... this is slightly perplexing to describe what I mean, so think of of issues this way: If beings that existed in in basic terms 2 dimensions (length and top, without intensity) have been a approach or the different witness to a three dimensional being like your self, they had probable choose you as all-powerful of their certainty, considering which you are able to fairly carry out feats that look impossible to them... so... a 4D being might seem to be all-powerful in the third length, yet be completely wide-spread is his very own certainty... if so, the the two might and would not be Gods. Eh, in no way recommendations. i'm in basic terms babbling right here. you're able to probable pay interest to in straight forward terms the 1st paragraph.
2016-10-08 22:05:35 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The difference between God and the big bang is that nobody worships the big bang.
For all we know God is the big bang. Maybe God is the entire universe. That would be fine with me as long as I don't have to worship or fear it
2007-07-31 07:42:44 · answer #8 · answered by Spencer Y 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
No. atheists refute the argument that First Cause = God.
Further, although it is our common experience, at the macroscopic scale, that a chain of causes exists, it is not necessarily true at the quantum scale.
Atheists do not claim to have all the answers, so there is no hypocrisy. Christians do claim to have all the answers.
2007-07-31 07:45:17 · answer #9 · answered by novangelis 7 · 0⤊ 3⤋
the universe was created so it did have a beginning but God didnt....its not hypocritical when we truly believe it!
2007-07-31 07:41:21 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 4⤋