How can you deny the truth of the Bible in the face of this evidence? Part 2?

Question

I asked this question a few minutes ago and everyone wants sources. The sources and steps are below.

Scientists have proven that the earth was truely "formed" in the same steps described in Genesis! This evidence was only discovered recently. So how did Moses get it right?

bible:
1. light
2. land
3. water
4. firmament
5. birds and sea creatures
6. wild beasts, humans
7. rest

science:
1. sun (gravitational pull / light)
2. layers of the earth (land)
3. water
4. heavy astroid bombardment, forcing steam to escape creating firmament or 2nd atmosphere
5. sea life
6. animal life
7...

science source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Earth

Biblical source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_creation

Answer 1

Amen brother...
I just saw you..Kirk Cameron in "Left Behind" 1 & 2...Great Job man.

Answer 2

Actually it's hypothesised that everything was orginally a big ball of highly dense material that exploded into lower density materials creating pockets of gases.
~Theses gases collected together to form suns.
~The suns went through their life cycle (which can last millions to billions of years) and then exploded creating dense materials (elements).
~ Dense material collected due to the gravitational pull between them forming a ball.
~ The less dense material was then drawn by the greater gravity of the dense ball to create an atomsphere.
~ The less dense material formed H2O.
~ So on and so on....You get the picture.

Well, seeing as Moses liked to talk to bushes for fun. I dont really want to take his assumptions as truth. Plus the whole part that you have them out of order from the Bible makes you're assumption wrong too....

Lets see Genesis 1:1
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." (So Bible says he made earth first.)

Genesis 1:3
"And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day."
(THEN he made light...eg, Suns)

Genesis 1: 6
"And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day."
(Therefore he even created WATER before light (as it can be seen he created this big thing of water with the "earth and heavens", and make the sky out of water.... interesting & amusing)

Bible: 0 Science: 1

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Answer 3

You're not serious, are you?

Claim CH801:
The creation account in Genesis 1 lists ten major events in this order: (1) a beginning; (2) a primitive earth in darkness and enshrouded in heavy gases and water; (3) light; (4) an expanse or atmosphere; (5) large areas of dry land; (6) land plants; (7) sun, moon, and stars discernible in the expanse, and seasons beginning; (8) sea monsters and flying creatures; (9) wild and tame beasts and mammals; (10) man. The odds of getting that order correct by chance are one in 3,628,800.

Response:

1. The real order is: (1) a beginning; (2) light; (3) sun and stars; (4) primitive earth, moon, and atmosphere; (5) dry land; (6) sea creatures; (7) some land plants; (8) land creatures and more plants and sea creatures; (9) flying creatures (insects) and more plants and land and sea creatures; (10) mammals, and more land and sea animals, insects, and plants; (11) the first birds, (12) fruiting plants (which is what Genesis talks about) and more land, sea, and flying creatures; (13) man and more of the various animals and plants. That is nothing like the order endorsed by Jehova's Witnesses.

2. The odds of choosing that particular order are not one in 3,628,800. Much of the order is constrained. For example, the beginning must have been first, and land had to exist before land animals and plants. When these are taken into account, the chance of getting that order are one in 5,760 at worst.

3. The claim contradicts what Genesis says. Genesis does not say when the sun and moon became visible (which would not have been until after eyes were created in any event); it tells when they were created. Genesis also refers to fruiting plants, which came after the first sea and land animals.

Answer 4

I see only one serious problem with your argument, your Bible list is wrong! Genesis 1 clearly lists creation in THIS order:

0. Water (not created)
1. Light
2. Firmament (a solid version of the sky)
3. Land, plants
4. Sun, Moon, then stars
5. Fish and birds
6. Animals, including humans

Your list doesn't match. (For that matter, Genesis 2 states that humans were created before plants and animals, so the list is meaningless.) You took bits and pieces of the scientific record and pasted them together to match your particular creation fantasy. And it looks like you did the same thing with Genesis too.

Answer 5

actual, Biblical illiteracy is turning out to be greater atheists than Christians ought to or could ever do. The Bible speaks of the two non secular and literal issues so literal know-how of specific texts in mandatory in specific places. Human reason, till aided with the help of the Holy Spirit, is incapable of know-how the Bible. there's a tremendously good Reasoning presented in the Bible and humility is important as a typical step in the direction of comprehending the which potential of what's in the verses. this would properly be a paradox because of the fact the sinful human ideas isn't humble or keen to correctly known its inferiority till a softened heart prepares the way for exchange.

Answer 6

The only flaw in that logic is the fact that creationists think GOD created all of that 6,000 years ago!

Apart from that, they finally hit the nail on the head somewhere. The sad thing is, other religions before christianity and definitely before Mozes' existence, have already stated the same thing. Strangely enough, they did not state a certain amount of other things that the bible states. Including the existence of only one God and of Judgement day... among other things.

Answer 7

your a F#$!ING idiot. If people are supposedly smart and becoming more advanced, than why is 90+% of the human race too idiotic to realize that God and the Bible are B.S. It was just a way for primitive people to understand things before the theory of evolution. So...if you believe these things then you are primitive. Don't you get it. Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, genesis, there all the same. The only differnce is you haven't seen that there isn't genesis. It took that for you not to believe the others. In the presidential debates only 3 republicans didn't believe in evolution. See-even most idiot republican biggots aren't stupid enough to believe in genesis. As some guy answered for one of my questions: "Who gives a flying ****." End Quote

Answer 8

You are stretching the truth to match it to your bronze-age book. How typical.

How does "God creates lights in the firmament of Heaven, to separate light from darkness and to mark days, seasons and years. Two great lights are made (note: they are not named), as well as the stars" morph into "heavy astroid bombardment, forcing steam to escape", and what is that bullshit about 2nd atmosphere anyway?

Answer 9

According to the Bible, the universe and the earth were created more or less simultaneously which is not what science claims at all. And by the way, Moses was a barbarian who directed his tribe to commit mass rape and murder; hardly a knowledgeable authority on the universe's origins.

Answer 10

Very easily. I deny the bible as being anything but truthful

Answer 11

I dont really believe god created the universe..
Im reading the bible though and all it says is "and then god created light, and there was light"
what the hell!