I undersand that it is forbidden for a man or woman to touch before marriage (see my last question), but if they " break the rules" and touch (whether it be kissing, sex, etc) what are the penalties or ramifications according to orthodox jewish law? Thanks for your help.
2007-07-31 06:00:22 · 6 answers · asked by cutielicious 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Not much. Their parents will probably be cross- but I haven't heard of many lightning bolts striking erring teens!
On a more serious note- in the past, sexual relations were considered a valid way to get married- but then people were married soon after entering puberty, so this wasn't really an issue. In the modern era- we do not allow marriage by bi'ah (sexual relations), nor doe we have a ketubah (marriage contract) based on the status fo a girl being a virgin or not. As such- it is an issue for the people themselves. if it has just been touching or kissing, then the infractions are minor- and merely rabbinical gezeirot (fences) to prevent infractions of biblical prohibitions. As such- the custom for both bride and groom to go to the mikveh just before the wedding would remove any tumah (impurity) and thus leave no existing issues.
Where a problem arises is if they engaged in sexual relations before marriage- and the girl had not been observing the laws of niddah (ritual purity). In this case their is a violation of a issur d'oraiso (biblical prohibition) with a punichment of kareis (excission by the heavenly court). In temple times- that would have necessitated the bringing of a sin offering for violating such a serious issur. Nowadays- it requires repentance before the wedding. This is actually fairly easily done- the groom and bride traditionally fast on the day of the wedding after going to mikveh. It is also customary to recite the vidui (confession) prayer from Yom Kippur as well as the Amidah for Yom Kippur on the day of the wedding- essentially the bride and groom enter the wedding in a statee of purity after asking for all their sins to be forgiven. The Arizal (Rabbi Isaac Luria, the major commentator on the Kaballah) teaches that under the chupah (the wedding canopy), is one of the times in our lives when making teshuvah sheleimah (complete repentance) is easiest and that we should use this opportunity to do so. If the bride and groom have been naughty before the wedding, now is the time for them to repent and toe enter their new lives with a conviction to create a home built on Torah principles and values.
2007-07-31 22:10:00 · answer #1 · answered by allonyoav 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
What Blue Foot stated: "Jews have not got the Christian theory of "being lost". each and every person can advantage a place in the international to return, even Muslims. while you're no longer Jewish you're a Gentile, so once you're a gentile and follow the 7 noachide rules, which i think many Muslims already do, then constructive." is genuine. and because Muslims believe Jews shall bypass to Hell in the event that they do no longer prefer Islam, then i think this is logical which you would be a Muslim! What are you gonna lose? in certainty, you will benefit plenty! is clever does not it? it particularly is why I converted to Ash'ari (Sunni) Islam in spite of the certainty that i grew to become into born an Orthodox Jew.
2016-11-10 19:54:27 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
What would be the ramifications if a Christian were to decide not to go to Easter services? There's no physical consequences, but they believe that to break this rule is to upset G-d. The same goes for Christians skipping Easter (or another major holiday) services.
2007-07-31 06:07:06 · answer #3 · answered by future_jewish_public_defender 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
No Woody Allen movies for 3 months.
2007-07-31 06:03:53 · answer #4 · answered by Peter D 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Guilt.
2007-07-31 06:05:24 · answer #5 · answered by Cathy 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Touching does not mean I touch you or you touch me. Paul meant regarding sexual relations. Read 1 Corinthians 7.
2007-07-31 06:23:05 · answer #6 · answered by 1saintofGod 6 · 0⤊ 3⤋