Unions can be a good thing no doubt.But they can also Bankrupt a company by demanding excessive pay.Take General Motors as an example.Do you think companies hire these illegals to avoid these unions which do this?
2007-07-31 05:00:23 · 13 answers · asked by Dog Tricks 4 in Politics & Government ➔ Immigration
although i am a person that votes for workers, i do agree that unions often do more harm then good.
of course the companies hire illegals to avoid getting them in unions, and benefits, and decent pay.
but im going to disagree with the majority of the people and say that the biggest unions in the united states arent pressing for amnesty.
the reason why: they want to force them into unions. dont believe me?
http://www.uaw.org/solidarity/00/0500/front07.html
"Employers often knowingly hire workers who are undocumented, and then when workers seek to improve working conditions, employers manipulate the law to fire or intimidate workers," said Linda Chavez-Thompson, AFL-CIO executive vice president."
everyyear, the unions become more greedy, and if that means that americans will lose their jobs because the vps of this union want more unearned money, thats fine.
and to say greed is the major downfall of companies is true to an extent, but shouldnt the same be true for unions?
Ron Gettelfinger the president of uaw made $1.7 million last year.
John J. Sweeney president of afl-cio made $1.2 million last year
2007-07-31 06:32:15 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Yes, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have unions.
You are speaking to a 'reformed' free market fanatic here. Unions raise benefits and pay for all, and wages and benefits are now the lowest percentage of gross domestic product that they have been since WWII (and before that was the great depression). Non-union wages and benefits are exactly what we are referring to when we say illegal immigration drives down wages, benefits and lifestyle for our own workers. The rich are getting richer and the poor poorer, and the middle class are disproportionately paying the entitlements through taxes which fund the cheap labor for the rich. Thus the middle class decreases to the poorer class.
This is not the American dream, FYI.
2007-07-31 08:43:33 · answer #2 · answered by DAR 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
No. Management ruins a company. Poor products ruin a company. Fair wages and health benefits don't' ruin a company.
Honda and Toyota are winning right now because they make a quality product. it has nothing to do with workforce, honda and Toyota pay very well and have good benefit. Ford and Chevy pay their workers less now and have cut all benefits. However, Japan has laws limiting what top management can make by limiting th ratio- 50:1 I believe. For every dollar a floor worker makes, the CEO can make up to 50. That cuts down on costs much more tehn cutting costs on the floor.
Bringing in immigrants to work is only a result of corrupt management only concerned with lining their own pockets.
2007-07-31 05:10:49 · answer #3 · answered by The Big Box 6 · 4⤊ 0⤋
That is one of the reasons for the Nafta superhighway - to bring chinese 'goods' in through Mexico to bypass the longshoreman's union. Most of the muti-national corps will shaft employees and customers eight ways to Sunday so the exec's at the top can have yachts and jets.
2007-07-31 05:25:51 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
No, if anything bankrupts a company it is the costs of healthcare and corporate greed.
Throw in the fact that Americans can no longer afford American cars because more Americans are competing with illegals. Add in that American cars do not compete with foreign cars in other countries (we don't tax their car at the same rate they tax ours)
2007-07-31 05:27:41 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
I think Unions that support illegal immigration have no concept of economics. I'd be happy to school them at one of their meetings. Its quite simple....Less labor supply translates to higher wages. Importing people in mass quantities increases the supply. When you add that they aren't legal and wage minimums don't apply, and you have lots of illegals, that means one huge labor pool, that they can't compete against.
2007-07-31 11:41:58 · answer #6 · answered by Ken 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There's another way to look at this. Alot of unions care more about membership and money than anything, so they are fighting for illegals to become legit, so they can force them to become union members too. But, your point is well taken, the UAW has all but killed the "Big 3" with unreasonable wage & benefit deals. Too bad. They close plants, and Honda & Toyota build new ones.
2007-07-31 05:05:35 · answer #7 · answered by JeffyB 7 · 4⤊ 2⤋
Unions (originally) act in the name of the workers, so that the workers have equal bargaining power with the corporation.
Very rarely does a corp go bankrupt paying a fair wage to employees -- usually bankruptcy is caused by management corruption.
2007-07-31 05:04:23 · answer #8 · answered by coragryph 7 · 5⤊ 2⤋
Not really, but I do agree that there is corruption and greed involved in the union top dogs. We still haven't found Jimmy Hoffa!
2007-07-31 09:29:41 · answer #9 · answered by Ms.L.A. 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I would hire outside of unions, but I would not hire "illegal aliens"...
2007-07-31 05:30:42 · answer #10 · answered by train120 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋