including the moment and mannor of your death?
If you commit suicide did god know before your birth you would commit it and is it a sin if he did?
How can free will exist with predestiny?
2007-07-31 02:44:32 · 24 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Jeebus a lot of stupid people answering maybe I can clear it up for them.
IF God knows everything then he knows what choice you are going to make. The reason this makes it so you don';t have free will is because you have to pick the thing god knows you will "choose" if you where to pick the other then it would invalidate Omniscient and make him no longer god.
Let me put it this way. An apple and an orange are in front of you. God knows everything and thus know that you will pick the orange. Now you have to pick the orange or god really didn't know what you would pick. You had no free will in the matter because by knowing everything your choice are now predetermined as a consequence of omniscients.
How hard is it to grasp that if you know everything then no choice can be made by people because if they make a choice that you didn't know then you didn't know everything.
2007-07-31 03:05:34 · answer #1 · answered by John C 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God only gives you the path at your birth to live your life to the fullest and most righteous way, because he knows you will encounter negative temptations , it is up to you to follow the correct path, this is where the free to exist fits in,You make your own decision, and suicide is a sin against God.
2007-07-31 02:56:42 · answer #2 · answered by Bingo 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There is such a thing that is called predestiny but there are almost infinite predestined reactions/occations/parts in a person's life... Our freewill will only choose an action to trigger the reaction...
2007-07-31 02:51:52 · answer #3 · answered by LyKa_TaNtaRaNtAn 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Why can't they? Knowing that something will happen and making it happen are two completely different things. Now, some people believe that God knows AND makes everything happen. I don't, but if you do, then you've got an interesting argument. Otherwise, there is no reason why knowing everything and causation (free will) cannot co-exist. Just because I know that a branch will fall from a tree doesn't mean I caused gravity.
2007-07-31 02:49:22 · answer #4 · answered by Mr. Taco 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Because you are comparing apples to oranges. God and people see the world in different dimensions (and scales).
It is just point of view. If you were on top of a building and saw an accident just happen, and then you went downstairs and told someone police cars and ambulences would come soon...and then they did, they might think you were psychic.
Furthermore, someone else having knowledge of what we do does not mean we do not choose. From our point of view, at the moment of choice, we choose. Being predictable does not mean we do not choose.
~ Eric Putkonen
2007-07-31 03:03:32 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
that is actly a good question. The basic faith of being a christian is not that you have a set life for you. but God actly has given us a choice not only in our own life, but also our mind set. to either take the road God has given us to go down. or take another road. but just like all roads. they intersect with each other. So even at your death bed. if you truly want to give your heart to God and ask to be forgive of the earthly sins you have done in your life you are forgiven. and the slate wiped clean.
2007-07-31 02:50:39 · answer #6 · answered by redneckk00 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
We have the free will to have any variety of decisions from an infinite number of choices. It just so happens that we do not use that will to its full extent, and, in every possible reiteration of reality, make the same choices, with the same result. We are free, we just have the incredible tendency to do as fate dictates.
2007-07-31 02:52:23 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
God gave us free will. Yes he already knows what is going to happen but he allows it to happen. God knew all along if someone was going to commit suicide, but that's still their own choice. Suicide is a sin because you are killing yourself and God says not to murder.
2007-07-31 02:49:25 · answer #8 · answered by just me 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Almighty God, being perfect, can CHOOSE to not know.
Free will gives us the chance of freedom from being controlled. without free will we would just be programmed robots.
We have the choice whether to obey God or not.
The manner of our death is not set. Our decisions can affect when it happens.
We should try and live as safe as possible. To protect, as far as we are able, the life God gave us.
2007-07-31 03:22:58 · answer #9 · answered by pugjw9896 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Complete knowledge is not the same thing as pre-determination. God knowing about things does not mean at any point that we have no choice. God does not operate in the same simplistic manner as FATE. We work with him, not just bound by some unchangeable destiny.
2007-07-31 02:50:59 · answer #10 · answered by peacetimewarror 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋