It has been 100% proven lance did epo in the 99 tour, 6 frozen urine samples through various stages (most that he won) PROVED he took EPO during the race. He was "Trained" by pro-tour doping specialist Dr. Ferrari until the gentle doctor was found guilty of teaching cyclists how to dope and get away with it. ALL of his closest competitors during his tour wins were associated with or found to have used enhancing drugs! Furthermore, his cancer could be attributed to the various types of steroids he was using while he was coached by Chris Carmichael while on the US national team. Please try to explain how I am wrong intelligently. And try not to use the smelly people as an excuse!!
2007-07-30 16:00:39 · 10 answers · asked by mike van stank 1 in Sports ➔ Cycling
long ago during my school days when i was nearing the exam dates a great teacher of mine said to me,
"if you don't cheat, you are stupid!!"
"to cheat and get caught, you are worse than stupid"
"to cheat and not get caught, that is something not everybody can do"
at least that's what he said....
2007-07-30 22:38:37 · answer #1 · answered by lohsy 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
What has been missed here is whether he took illegal sustances or not. In practically every sport (football, cycling, baseball, track, hockey, etc.) the players use performance enhancing substances of some sort. It's a question of whether the substance is legal or deemed illegal to use to enhance performance in that particular sport.
You can't possibly believe that there aren't performance-enhancing substances used in most -if not all sports. Athletes get access to stuff before it can even be deemed legal or illegal by the sport organizations. Tests are done to find banned substances- nothing else.
Not to point fingers, but football and baseball are perfect examples. Look at how many players have tested positive for using steroids. Do you really think that they were stupid enough to start using a drug after it was declared illegal knowing that they'll have to take drug tests? I think not. The stuff they take is stuff that they've been taking only now it's been declared illegal and it shows up in a drug test because the officials are now looking for it.
Did Lance take something? Probably, but he would still is an awesome rider just by his mental and physical stats alone. Here's what Lance said in a magazine interview:
"People ask me what I'm on. What am I on? I'm on my bike - busting my *** - six hours a day. What are you on?"
-Lance Armstrong
2007-07-31 07:22:16 · answer #2 · answered by Terrence B 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You've been reading From Lance to Landis.... I think there is a good amount of evidence that he did dope, if I were a betting man, I would wager that he did. To me, the instant message conversation between Frankie Andreau and Jonathon Vaughters is the most damning. Two former teammates that had no idea their conversation would ever be seen were talking openly about Lance's doping, that's the nail in the coffin. However, I don't think it takes everything away from him, the other top riders like Ullrich and Basso are also clearly dopers and he crushed them because in addition to his doping program, he also worked harder than the rest. But in the end, cheating is cheating, who knows what the results would be if all the riders were clean.
2007-07-31 01:39:10 · answer #3 · answered by Reece Judicata 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I've got a question : please give me the link to a very reliable source, which proves to me, beyond any doubt, Armstrong was proven positive at any stage during any of his Tour de France's?
I'm afraid I'm one of these naive people who believe he was clean. Why?? Cuz his whole season existed only of the Tour de France, you'd never see him ride any important Spring-classics, nope, he was training, mostly with the most important people in his TdF-team, in France. He checked out every mountain that was in the schedule of the Tour, not once, but numerous times, he KNEW where the difficulties would be, and he planned everything ahead.
And no, I've never been an Armstrong-fan (sorry), but I have the highest respect for the way he prepared himself for the Tour.
Mind you, to me Merkx is still the best rider over all, HE did every Spring-Classics, plus the Tour, and sometimes other great rounds, like the Giro or the Tour de Suisse, as well.
2007-07-31 01:51:50 · answer #4 · answered by Joshua 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
i dissagree that cycling is corrupt. cycling is doing what every sport out there is doing, only they are trying to take a stand and change instead of turning a blind eye to it. everyone knows football players, baseball players and american sports in general dopes. cycling is the only sport making a strong effort to stop it.
the signs of epo were in the 98 blood samples. they dont test for epo with urine tests. yes, doping was widespread. at the time they couldnt test for epo. looking for an edge, i am willing to bet many cyclists of the time were using it. the thing is this, there was a leak from the lab (totally unprofessional and wrong). no one ever verified those samples were actually lances. they were numbered samples and someone leaking information from the lab said they were his. they may have actually been his, but can you really trust someone leaking information to get a story in the paper? of course he would say they were lances to get the most attention, even if they werent.
look, i believe he likely doped, but all i am saying is there has to be justice. there has to be due process. rasmussen was destroyed by rumors and that wasnt right. no one ever proved anything. he was persumed guilty with no evidence, no trial, no consideration. we cannot condemn people without proof. no matter how much we think we know, it isnt right to condemn someone without actual facts. until someone proves otherwise, despite all the rumors, we have to say lance raced clean. no one has a shred of evidence that says different. they have rumors, but no facts, no possitive tests that can be verified.
2007-07-30 22:46:10 · answer #5 · answered by ohiojeff 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Lance is 36 years previous, and no quantity of want will supply him 23-year-previous legs. Granted, he continues to be an superb athlete, yet professional racing is so strenuous that maximum careers final from approximately 18 to 30 years of age, tops. There are some exceptions, yet older bodies can not sustain that time of capacity output to any extent further. besides, Lance would not could desire to win yet another excursion. He has seven under his belt, and is arguably the final TdF rider ever (the final motorbike proprietor call nonetheless is going to Eddy Merckx, bar none).
2016-10-08 21:11:14 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If he didn't cheat then he was the most amazing athlete in the modern era. Cycling is corrupt and *most* cyclers take roids or other performance enhancers. If lance was able to beat all of these cheaters 7 times without cheating that would be unbeleivable. Its pretty obvious that he did something. But its hard to be mad at him considering all he has done for cancer research. At least he used his fame for the good of society.
2007-07-30 20:39:07 · answer #7 · answered by jim 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Wait, is has been 100% proven? Please share a reliable source; I had not heard that it has been factually proven.
2007-07-30 16:09:51 · answer #8 · answered by 2007_Shelby_GT500 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
if he did cheat, he's smarter than the others, he didn't test positive!
2007-07-30 16:09:56 · answer #9 · answered by Jan Luv 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
you should get on with your life.
2007-07-30 17:04:38 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋