evolution vs. christianity (ONLY FOR THOSE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY R TALKING ABOUT!!)?

Question

look evolution AND christianity have concrete evidence hard enough to denouce both of them. i am currently leaning towards the christian side because i have witnessed myself the truth that god exists,but because it is my testimony i cant present that as evidence so i wont. in this question is
evolution:1.no links between evolutionary stages(specialized evolution is a ludicrous theory o dont feed it to me)2.the chances of it happening:1x 10(to the) 100000000...ect. power(dont feed me the 1/1000000000000000 because if u look at the evidence you will come up with a number soo utterly massive ull be disgusted at thinking it happened(although if the universe were around for infinity the chances of it happening look a little better)3.carbon dating
carbon dating CANNOT give a reading over 50,000 years if u dont believe me look it up
plus when using carbon dating on different parts of the fossil they end up with vastly different times. thus it IS a faulty system
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Answer 1

Sorry, but you have your facts wrong.

"1.no links between evolutionary stages(specialized evolution is a ludicrous theory o dont feed it to me)"

Speciation has been observed first hand. So, we've seen direct links between evolutionary stages. Also, I think your knowledge of the fossil record is sorely out of date.

"2.the chances of it happening:1x 10(to the) 100000000...ect. power(dont feed me the 1/1000000000000000 because if u look at the evidence you will come up with a number soo utterly massive ull be disgusted at thinking it happened(although if the universe were around for infinity the chances of it happening look a little better)"

You are correct. The chances of all that matter just flying together and happening to form an animal is utterly impossible, even given the age of the universe. Of course, that isn't how animals came to be. It came about because of a gradual process where each step was extremely possible. Your statistics ignore the process involved. It's like saying that metal can't just happen to form a computer, which would be correct, but would ignore the usually process by which computers are made.

"3.carbon dating
carbon dating CANNOT give a reading over 50,000 years if u dont believe me look it up plus when using carbon dating on different parts of the fossil they end up with vastly different times. thus it IS a faulty system"

Again, your information is wrong and incomplete. Accelerator techniques for carbon dating have extended its range back to about 100,000 years, compared to less than half that for direct counting techniques. And it has been confirmed through other methods of dating. Carbon dating is not the only way to date something.

Answer 2

"ONLY FOR THOSE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY R TALKING ABOUT"?
Then why are you here? You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Though I surely won't be the first to point it out.

1. This sounds like the classic bogus "there are no transitional fossils" claim. It's false, in fact it's been revealed as false so many times that Answers in Genesis tells creationists not to use it anymore for fear of looking like idiots.
2. Where did you get that probability? Another repeated creationist error. You don't show your math. I'm going to guess you got this from a creationist website, and they got it by willfully ignoring the multi-step nature of evolutionary processes.
3. Wonder of wonders, you actually get the time limitation on carbon dating right. You just seem to have forgotten that there are elements OTHER than carbon, that other dating methods exist that don't suffer the same limitations, and that for the most part these methods agree remarkably well. You have offered no example of "when using carbon dating on different parts of the fossil they end up with vastly different times," so I'll assume you just made it up.

Answer 3

As soon as you come up with another scientific theory that explains the observed FACT that new species have replaced earlier species ever since life appeared on earth, better than or at least as good as the theory of biological evolution explains it, publish it and become rich and famous overnight. Until then, evolution is the ONLY theory that adequately explains the observed facts. Like it or not.

However, the phrase "evolution vs. Christianity" makes no sense at all. Open your eyes! Millions of devout Christians all around you do not feel obliged to renounce objective reality in order to hang onto their religious beliefs! So obviously there is NO conflict between TRUE Christianity and TRUE science! Apparently then, the problem is your own simplistic, unauthoritative, erroneous biblical interpretations. Have you ever considered the possibility that your interpretations of the Bible just might possibly be less than infallible?? Especially since most Christians don't agree with you?

Answer 4

Did you get your hands on a junior christian college, science book again. Well you certainly proved the experts wrong. You seem to have just enough of a grasp to think you know what you are talking about. I am not going to spend forever writting a thesis to try and argue what has already been proven.

And there is certainly less (well none what so ever actually) proof of gods existance. You have started with faulty logic.

Midge- of course you believe in god over evolution, you cant even manage to form a sentnce never mind understand evolution.

guraqt2me- 200 or so scientist out of about 50000 is quite a pitiful percentage. Is that really the best you have?

Answer 5

I would like to add that much guesswork has to go into fossil dating methods. How deep the fossil was buried, how have the elements, temperature, erosion, heat, moisture, insects, ground movement and other natural causes, affected the sample being tested. All of these unknowns have to be guessed at, in order to complete the formula. There is much guesswork (Theorizing) in carbon dating and the like.

Answer 6

Personally I don't wish to discredit god or evolution, all I'm saying is that god is not necessary. Everything you do in life can be done just as well with or without god. As much as you say 'I have witnessed myself the truth" if you do not have sufficient proof, the "truth" can all be in your head.

Answer 7

I think you should look at some of the university sites that discuss evolution or paleontology to get your facts straightened out. Your statements all fall into the classification of false. I thgink you must have been cruising Northwest Creation or Answers in Genesis to get them.

Start here;
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/
and if you have any questions after you have read that email me and I can give you more sites to explore that are also honest and legitimate.

Answer 8

You have a lot of misinformation about science and more specifically evolution. You should do some basic research then start learning about evolution again.

Answer 9

Might I suggest checking out the site: Center for Science & Culture (CSC). Herein, are current Scientific facts concerning the rejection of Evolution by SCIENTISTS around the world, from the world's foremost Universities and Colleges. This site lists hundreds of Scientists, their proof for rejection Darwin and their Degree. If anyone wants more ammuntion against the "Theory of Evolution" - its here in 100% unadulterated TRUTH @ www.dissentfromdarwin.org
No "religious" connotations, either !!!

Answer 10

So...what exactly are you asking here.

All I have to say is there is no such thing as evolution vs. Christianity. Evolution is science, Christianity is a religion. One does not suggest the other is not possible. It's unfortuante Christians (like you) that don't understand science make it out to be that way.