Muslims, Did Muhammad follow God before he became a prophet?

Question

Muhammad had the truth available to him which is the Torah and Gospel we have today. If Muhammad followed the truth then why would he agree with an angel that taught against the word of God? If Muhammad did not agree with the word of God...How could he be a prophet of God? We know that Muhammad did not speak directly to God therfore he would have had to depend on the word of God to know he was hearing from an angel of God and not Satan. Could we have a prophet of God who did not know God?

What would Muhammad have used to know God?

Dagah If Muhamamd was unsure of who God is how could he be a prophet of God? How can a Muslim be sure Muhammad was not deceived by a demon? His word does not agree with the book that God gave Moses.

Sure Sarah It is easy to prove to you that the word fo God we have today predates Muhammad and the Qu'ran.
Jesus taught fromt eh book of Isaiah that says he would atone for sin and agreed wiht it this is 600 years before Islam...If the book of Isaiah said this 600 years before Muhammad and says the same today how was it not the same during the time of Muhammad?

Sarah Abraham said the lord would provide himself a lamb...Isaiah said the lamb would atone for sin. Jesus agreed.
What word of God did Muhammad have that disagreed with these prophets of God?

Diana How did Muhammad know it was an angel and not Satan if all the scriptures disagreed wiht the angel?

From the Lebanon I will ask until I get an answer. It is not an answer to simply say Muhammad is a prophet of god...How is this possible it the angel he was tlaking to disagreed with the available word of God? How does Muhamamad discover this is an angel of the lord what verifys it for him? Simply because Satan says I am an angel from God? Then we are to believe Satan.

Fez ...Did the Bible teach the atonement before Muhammad? Then this angel disagreed with God and Muhammad chose to believe the angel rather than believe God..How did he verify the word from the angel?

God Bless You Jim..Christians were warned nto to be deceived...Christ himself did not bear witness of himself but the Father in heaven anounced him.
God and the word of God foretold of Christ but Muhammad has only an angel who spoke to only him that even he could not have know if it was from God.

Dinos...My point is to show those who follow Muhammd that he himslef had no way of knowing that he spoke with a messenger of God...Never in history did God send his word in this way disagreeing with his own scripture and prophets and not a word from God himself but an agel who denies the word of God...How could this be?

Sarah Abraham we know spoke to God directly so did Moses...they were guided by the literal word of God not an angel...If a man receive an angel the angel would have to agree with God...What prophet of God spoke with an angel and changed the teachings of God? If God wanted to change his message wouldnt God do that directly or would God expect us to follow an angel who disagreed with the word of God?

From the Lebenon Do you believe in the book of Barnabas or the Qu'ran? They do not agree. Jesus is the Messiah in the Qu'ran yet the false book of Barnabas say Jesus is not the Messiah.
Also the book of Barnabas says Muhamamd is the Messiah...Not taught in the Quran...another problem with this fraud book of Barnabas is it says Jesus is the Christ...Christ is Messiah.

Fromt the Lebanon Muhammad is not in he Bible but where Christ warns of false prophets even then not mentioned by name.

Fez If Muhammad did not believe int he available word of God and did not speak to God how could he have been a prophet of God? It does not endear your religion to me to know that Muhammad followed and angel he could nto identify and denied the word of God...How could Muhammad or you not understand the angel at best could nto be proved to be of God and disagreed wiht God which definitley would make one decide he was hearing form a devil.

Jim Praise the Lord for you! God Bless You! I many times hear Christians say that Chist fufilled the law and the prophets meaning he was the last prophet...There are two coming! They are the law and the prophets. The two great witnesses which are coming soon.

Jim, Christ was not raptured from the cross, he could have sent ten thousand anges who were ready...He was not raptured he is our example we are the body of Christ and there is no rapture till we meet him in the air.

Bill, Moses spoke to God...at the time it was before the birth of Christ which means Moses spoke to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit...Jesus agreed with the word god. even the Quran says he is the word of God how could Jesus call the word of God corrupt? No prophet spoke against the word of God...Moses said that a prophet must be in agreement with the word of God and with the prophets of God or he is a false prophet.

NOOR excuse me if I'm getting this worng but the evidence that it was Gabriel that spoke ot Muhamamd and enied the word of God...Is because the Hadiths and Qu'ran and Muhammad and the angel said so? We as Chrisitans and even Jews are taught to try a spirit and test it wiht the word of God.. The fact that a spirit tells you it is of God does not make this spirit from God. if a spirit disagrees with the word of God and the prophets of God it simply cant be from God. A prophet must be ina greement with God and hiw word and the prophets of God thus aspirit or an angel can nto teach against God or his word or his prophets...This angel die exactly that seeking to change God's word... God does not allow this...If God had allowed his word ot become corrupt which he did not he himself would have set the record strait,,, God would not expect his people to agree with an angel who disagreed with his word.

Noor if an angel came to you now and asked you to write a book from God...this would be in disagreement with the Qu'ran..Do you believe the angel and write the book anyway?
This would be the same as Muhammad's Qu'ran..It disagreed with the available word of God and yet this spirit claimed to come from God.
If an angel exceded the word of God then you can not be sure the Qu'ran is the last word of God.

Sarah there are copies of the Gospel available that predate Muhammad. They teach the same atonement taught by the Gospel today.

Answer 1

Paul warned that even if an Angel tells something different from the Gospel they preached, not to believe it. Yet mohammad wrote what he said came from God, through an Angel, after God changed His mind. There is not even a shadow of change with God. The quaran is leading billions straight into hell.

As far as being the last prophet, there are 2 still to come. Read Revelation 11. The whole world will hate them and they will be killed after a 3.5 year ministry. Judging from YA, I can definitely see how that would happen. They seem to come right before the anti-Christ. And don't say we will be raptured out. Better get ready to go through it.

Answer 2

Mohammed, pbuh, was a monotheist, not a Jew or a Christian, but a believer in one God. There were a small number of monotheists in Makkah at the time, including also Khadija, who become the wife of the Prophet. I don't know that any uncorrupted written scripture has been preserved to this day from so long ago. Can you answer what written scripture did Abraham, pbuh, follow? What do you mean about a book which refers to prophets but does not teach atonement? Muslims are taught to sincerely repent for their sins, but are taught that Allah does not prefer blood sacrifices. Sincere repentance comes from within and manifests itself in a change of behavior. "People of the Book" refers to the people who follow the Torah and the Evangel. There is only one God.

Answer 3

All your questions is based on the assumption (yes, I say assumption) that Bible=Words of God and Muslims must believe as such. I think it has been said thousand times that Muslims, while believing in Torah and Gospel, doesn't believe in your Bible and that something that you can never accept. No matter how long Muslims answer, you'll just post another longer arguments based on your inability to accept that Muslims don't believe Bible is word of God.

So, what's the point of arguing since Quran contradicts Bible, that means Muhammad disgree with God before him? We don't believe Bible is from God, it's only modified version of Torah, Psalms and Gospel. So if Quran agree with the Bible, doesn't it mean Quran is wrong as well? If Bible is correct, then what's the point of having Quran?

Answer 4

The Torah and the Gospel that we have today are not what the followers of the one true God followed during the time of the Moses (pbu) & Jesus (pbuh). All prophets were in submission to the one God. Gabriel did not speak against the word of God. Muhammad (pbuh) did agree with the truth of God.
With this ill logic could you explain Abraham's guidance?

EDIT: I didn't say that the torah and injil don't predate Islam....I said the books that exist today do not predate Islam. The books today are NOT truly the torah or injil/what was revealed to Moses and Jesus.
You are the one assuming an angel disagreed with God.
We do not believe that all prophets spoke directly with God.

YOU APPARENTLY HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME READING.

Answer 5

Prophets where people who tried to find the truth, and Allah guided them the path for that.

"As for those who strive in Us, We surely guide them to Our paths, and lo! Allah is with the good." The Spider - 29:69.

It is sure different when Allah talks to you.. than when the devil do.. Allah is the light of the universe.. Such light fill your heart and make you feel and understand.

If you're saying that: Any prophet who didn't talk to God is a false Prophet, then Same applies to David, Solomon, John the Baptist, Etc.. as no one of them spoke directly to God.. But they were all prophets known and respected in the three books.

Edit:

Yes.. I'll question this spirit.
Muhammad didn't contradict the prophets he came after.. my brother.

Answer 6

Prophet Muhammad was born in Mecca and people of his clan, the Quraish, were pagans. But it was well known even in those days that the Quraish were descendants of Ishmael through his second son Kedar, mentioned in the Bible. There is also some historical evidence that early Jews considered at least some Arabs to be descendants of Ishmael and even referred to them as Ishmaelite. See Genesis 37:25-28; Judges 8:24; Psalm 83:6.

According to Arab and Muslim traditions, Prophet Abraham built the Ka'aba with his son Ishmael but a descendant, Amr b. Luhayy b. Qam'a b. Khindiff, started the practice of idol worship which continued until the time of Prophet Muhammad.

Prophet Muhammad, as a child and later as a trader working for his own wife, made at least couple of trips to Syria where he must have learned few things about Christianity and Judaism, before the advent of Islam. A generation earlier, Abbysinian Christians had been defeated in Arabia after their victory over Yemeni Jews who were forcibly converting people to Judaism. So the Prophet must have had some knowledge of Christian and Jewish beliefs, but to what extent we don't know.

By all historical accounts, Prophet Muhammad did not believe in paganism. He used to retreat to the cave of Hira to meditate, searching for One true God. When Angel Gabriel approached him, he got scared and ran home—as any normal person would—not in disbelief but in utter shock. According to one Hadith: "The Prophet returned to Khadija [his wife] while his heart was beating rapidly. She took him to Waraqa bin Naufal who was a Christian convert and used to read the Gospels in Arabic. Waraqa asked (the Prophet), ‘What did you see?’ When he told him, Waraqa said, ‘That is the same angel whom Allah sent to the Prophet) Moses. Should I live till you receive the Divine
Message, I will support you strongly."

Later on, with more revelations, it became obvious to the Prophet that he was not hallucinating. These revelations were usually accompanied by a seizure-like state. It is interesting to note that the Jewish web site Ask-Moses.com [run by eminent Rabbis] had this to say: “'Prophecy frequently caused fainting, temporary loss of reasoning capabilities, involuntary muscular spasms and seizures..." Upon request, they provided the following reference: Maimonides' Mishneh Torah - Hilchot Yesodey HaTorah 7:2.

Answering your Comment:

I think you are making a fallacious assumption: The Bible is the yardstick; if Quran contradicts the Bible it must be false. [Similarly, a Jew could use the Torah as the yardstick and render the New Testament as false].

Neither Prophet Muhammad nor Muslims claim that Islam is in conformity with Christian beliefs. One has to judge each religion on its own merits. The question ought not to be whether Quran is consistent with the Bible. Everybody knows it isn’t. The two proper questions are: 1) Is the Bible consistent with itself? 2) Is Quran consistent with itself? In the absence of objective standards or historical proofs agreeable to everybody, internal consistency is the 'only' measure to judge the veracity of any religion, because it can be rationally argued that God cannot be the author of contradictions.

Answer 7

Parts of your bible have changed. You cannot deny it...or you could and then you would be called delusional. Read the book Misquoting Jesus.

Do you think you know God? Most ppl who follow a religion would say yes.

EDIT: Once again you are assuming I take the bible at it's word 100% of the time and the thing is, I don't. I appreciate you inquisitiveness, a lot of times ppl who keep asking questions like this end up becoming Muslim, I have seen it happen myself.

EDIT2: I understand you want to ask me further questions but you are avoiding the facts I am giving you so I am not going to continue this. I do however admire your persistence.

Answer 8

There are lots of people born with a certain degree of "being spiritual" for years and years and it is still happened.

I am not surprised that Muhammad is one of them, with high degree of it.

Everybody different, and it's not easy for somebody who are not gifted with ability to understand that, to understand.

That same question you can point to Jesus, Moses, David, Solomon.
It's different question about Sidharta, Lao Tze and Confusius.

I am sorry,it's pointless to explain this kind of things to you, I can feel it.
But I can tell you, that
Muhammad's God is NOT Jesus and everybody who agree with him, feels the same.

Lots of people DON'T BELIEVE that Jesus is GOD.
Moses too didn't "see" a human vision as a God, and didn't "hear" human voice, when he "received" the 10 commandments.

Even in the Bible, there are lots of "verses" that Jesus called "somebody" as his LORD.

This is max I can answer your question, I dont think it will help.

Answer 9

We must know that the source of Message is ONE. It's like a master computer sending instruction from a single source to various sub-computers. The Universal Message of God Almighty is one for all times. With that message was the first man walked upon the earth then Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad (Peace be upon them all), Prophets of God never passed through universities to deliver God's message. They came to different lands and in different times. But their messages were ONE. The core of the message is Submission to ONE God Almighty and to Prepare for the eternal world after death. So there were thousands of messengers walked upon this earth with same message. Though some of later generations misunderstood the true message of God Almighty and many of them took their Prophets for worship.


Say: "We believe in Allah and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham Isma`il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes and in (Books) given to Moses Jesus and the Prophets from their Lord; we make no distinction between one and another among them and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."

If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah) never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good). (Holy Quran:84:84,85)

Answer 10

Muhammad is the last infallible prophet sent as a mercy for mankind, get over it already, you go on and on about the same subject at least ask something new.

Edit: Muhammad is mentioned in your present bible and the bible of Barnabas so wake up from your sleep. How did Jesus know it was not satan speaking to him and not the father? Infact he did speak to him and according to your knowledge Jesus almost commited sucide. I think it was satan speaking to jesus the whole time. Should i lower my self to your level and ask silly questions like you about jesus no i won't.

So tell me why is Muhammad mentioned by name in the Bible of Barnabas when it was written before Muhammad?

Edit: Why all of a sudden you care if the bible of Barnabas agrees with the Quran, you are skipping the subject why is he mentioned by name in the bible of Barnabas? Can you answer this simple question?