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How many of you have ever passed a red light or drove faster than the legal limit? Last time I checked both are crimes right?
I have heard many of you call illegals criminals . I can assure you that for many illegals the only crime they have ever committed was coming here. So with that logic couldn't I call you a criminal? Heck let's take this a step further if you've ever told a lie couldn't you be called a liar?

2007-07-30 13:48:08 · 23 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Immigration

Speeding isn't a crime?
people don't speed on purpose is that the best you've got?

http://www.newstatesman.com/200705070025

2007-07-30 14:15:12 · update #1

Amnesty _Sucks(what a name)
I thought antis like yourself are outraged that the laws aren't being enforced?
nice selective outrage

2007-07-30 15:28:35 · update #2

23 answers

Yes, too bad most anti-illegal won't understand.

2007-07-30 15:42:11 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

"How many of you have ever passed a red light or drove faster than the legal limit? Last time I checked both are crimes right?"
Wrong. Also, I'm curious why you seem to think it's an original idea of yours to call someone who tells a lie a 'liar'. I believe most dictionaries already state that fact.

2007-07-30 17:55:07 · answer #2 · answered by Penguin_Bob 7 · 1 1

Excuse me but speeding is NOT on the same level as breaking our immigration laws. Traffic laws are not criminal offenses so "last time you checked" you got wrong information.

Sneaking across the border is a crime. Forging documents is a felony. ID theft is a felony.

EDIT: Hey, I like my name and amnesty does suck! You stated, "I thought antis like yourself are outraged that the laws aren't being enforced?"

HUH? I am outraged that the immigration laws aren't being enforced and our borders are wide open. Sorry but I stand firmly by my statements that illegal aliens are criminals.

2007-07-30 15:23:21 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

I agree, I have an ex-husband who will spout off at the mouth anytime anyone ever even mentions Mexico, about how they are criminals and should be shot on sight...meanwhile, he is so far behind in child support (he's never paid a dime of it, never even seen his daughter), that he is actually guilty of a CLASS D FELONY at this point due to the dollar amount....Do I see the state or federal government doing anything about it?? That's a laugh!
Anyways, you have to wonder how many people out there are guilty of something, yet will yell to no end about how the illegals are criminals.....Personally, I'd rather see a man that refuses to support the child he created sent to jail than a man who snuck over here to work his *** off for his child that is starving.

2007-07-30 20:29:31 · answer #4 · answered by Bruja 6 · 0 1

Actually, a traffic offense is not a 'crime' it is an infraction.

8 USC 1325 Entry Without Inspection : Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of -
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or (2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.

That being said, lying on your income tax return, a loan application, or job application (signed under penalty of perjury) is a crime.

In China you can be shot for illegally crossing the border, but then they can also shoot you for tax evasion.

2007-07-30 13:58:29 · answer #5 · answered by BruceN 7 · 11 1

Few ever commit those minor traffic violations with the intent of doing so; illegals aliens come here with the full knowledge beforehand that they will be committing a crime. Comparing the two is like trying to equate killing a bug with killing a person.


Guess you don't mind if we all come over to your house and freeload?
Lying isn't a crime unless done under oath (i.e. Bill Clinton).

Mexico encourages illegal migration to the USA, but has very stiff penalties for those who enter Mexico illegally. Does that not bother you?

2007-07-30 13:58:02 · answer #6 · answered by Dee B 4 · 10 1

"How many of you have ever passed a red light or drove faster than the legal limit?"

I have... I have!!!

I also paid the penalty for doing so. I broke the law and I paid the penalty for my own actions without thinking or saying I was “in the right”. It’s a little known thing called “personal responsibility”.

2007-07-30 17:00:01 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

This question is really getting old. Yes I was a criminal, and I paid my dues.
So when are they going to say sorry, go home and stay the hell out until they are legal? NEVER.
See the difference?
I don't break the law anymore, and I am actually friends with our Chief-of-Police now.
I paid my debt and am living legally now. They not only refuse to change, they think they deserve amnesty for breaking the laws.
Even if some don't want me to speak on their behalf, I say, On behalf of all Ex-criminals who have paid their debt to society, and all legal immigrants who came here legally and jumped through the bureaucratic hoops, Illegal criminals go home, no amnesty ever.

2007-07-30 14:22:18 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 11 1

Under our penal code, running a red light is not a federal crime. Equating a moving traffic violation with improper entry is like Sergio comparing slavery and illegal immigraiton.

They aren't comparable.

Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or

Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or

Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;
has committed a federal crime.

Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.

2007-07-30 14:14:59 · answer #9 · answered by ? 3 · 9 3

Well, I live in miami, and everyone here speeds or takes a red light every now and then. People do crazy stuff down here. Miami-Dade county is considered the host the worst drivers in America.

2007-07-30 16:53:10 · answer #10 · answered by lacrosse2cool 1 · 1 1

I haven't done anything like a $10,000 per year per child drain on someone else's services, as those who educate their children at our expense continue to do, daily.

And if I commit a crime, I expect to be punished if I am caught, not to be given amnesty.

2007-07-31 09:14:32 · answer #11 · answered by DAR 7 · 0 1

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