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There has never been a war between two Christian sects

What was Ireland all about then???

2007-07-30 05:55:28 · 25 answers · asked by ~Heathen Princess~ 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I am a Christian, and there HAVE been wars between Christians.

Here, read as much as you want:
from Foxe's Book of Martyrs
The Roman Catholic inhabitants of the valley of St. Martin, likewise, did all they could to torment the neighboring Waldenses: they destroyed their churches, burnt their houses, seized their properties, stole their cattle, converted their lands to their own use, committed their ministers to the flames, and drove the Waldenses to the woods, where they had nothing to subsist on but wild fruits, roots, the bark of trees, etc.

Some Roman Catholic ruffians having seized a minister as he was going to preach, determined to take him to a convenient place, and burn him. His parishioners having intelligence of this affair, the men armed themselves, pursued the ruffians, and seemed determined to rescue their minister; which the ruffians no sooner perceived than they stabbed the poor gentleman, and leaving him weltering in his blood, made a precipitate retreat. The astonished parishioners did all they could to recover him, but in vain: for the weapon had touched the vital parts, and he expired as they were carrying him home.

The monks of Pignerol having a great inclination to get the minister of a town in the valleys, called St. Germain, into their power, hired a band of ruffians for the purpose of apprehending him. These fellows were conducted by a treacherous person, who had formerly been a servant to the clergyman, and who perfectly well knew a secret way to the house, by which he could lead them without alarming the neighborhood. The guide knocked at the door, and being asked who was there, answered in his own name. The clergyman, not expecting any injury from a person on whom he had heaped favors, immediately opened the door; but perceiving the ruffians, he started back, and fled to a back door; but they rushed in, followed, and seized him. Having murdered all his family, they made him proceed towards Pignerol, goading him all the way with pikes, lances, swords, etc. He was kept a considerable time in prison, and then fastened to the stake to be burnt; when two women of the Waldenses, who had renounced their religion to save their lives, were ordered to carry ****** to the stake to burn him; and as they laid them down, to say, "Take these, thou wicked heretic, in recompense for the pernicious doctrines thou hast taught us." These words they both repeated to him; to which he calmly replied, "I formerly taught you well, but you have since learned ill." The fire was then put to the ******, and he was speedily consumed, calling upon the name of the Lord as long as his voice permitted.

As the troops of ruffians, belonging to the monks, did great mischief about the town of St. Germain, murdering and plundering many of the inhabitants, the reformed of Lucerne and Angrogne, sent some bands of armed men to the assistance of their brethren of St. Germain. These bodies of armed men frequently attacked the ruffians, and often put them to the rout, which so terrified the monks, that they left the monastery of Pignerol for some time, until they could procure a body of regular troops to guard them.

The duke not thinking himself so successful as he at first imagined he should be, greatly augmented his forces; he ordered the bands of ruffians, belonging to the monks, to join him, and commanded that a general jail-delivery should take place, provided the persons released would bear arms, and form themselves into light companies, to assist in the extermination of the Waldenses.

The Waldenses, being informed of the proceedings, secured as much of their properties as they could, and quitted the valleys, retired to the rocks and caves among the Alps; for it is to be understood that the valleys of Piedmont are situated at the foot of those prodigious mountains called the Alps, or the Alpine hills.

The army now began to plunder and burn the towns and villages wherever they came; but the troops could not force the passes to the Alps, which were gallantly defended by the Waldenses, who always repulsed their enemies: but if any fell into the hands of the troops, they were sure to be treated with the most barbarous severity.

A soldier having caught one of the Waldenses, bit his right ear off, saying, "I will carry this member of that wicked heretic with me into my own country, and preserve it as a rarity." He then stabbed the man and threw him into a ditch.

2007-07-30 06:02:27 · answer #1 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 1 4

There is a continuous war between Christian sects... even if it just verbal. As for physical... they really need to look into some of the different inquisitions (there was more than 1) and see how many times the Catholic Church attacked Protestants and the Protestants attacked Catholics... which did lead to "war"... they were killing each other over doctrinal differences.

No, they do not all love each other. Mention Mormons or JW's... who claim to be Christian and the first thing you'll get from the majority is "They're not Real Christians".

I'd have to say the person/people who believe in that have been kept from reality for far too long.

2007-07-30 13:04:06 · answer #2 · answered by River 5 · 2 1

It says something about the lack of ability by the average american to read critically, when they come up with this stuff.
A cursory read of ANY Irish history, even ANY reference to it such as even Wikipedia will tell you that religion was simply a complicating factor in the colonisation of Ireland by England, used by the colonising power to help control. People who want to point to religious disputes in Irish history are diverting attention from the fundamental fact that the basic factor in Irish history for 800 years was English expansion and imperialism.

If it was all about religion, how come the founders of Irish republicanism, were all protestant? How come the first president of Ireland was protestant? How come the founder of the Irish language revival movement was protestant? And how come the Pope was actually in alliance with King William at the time of the battle of the Boyne, celebrated ever since by protestants who don't know better, as a victory by protestants over catholics?

Could all you guys do some reading before showing your ignorance about Ireland?

2007-07-30 14:05:06 · answer #3 · answered by Donncha Rua 4 · 0 0

I think Mormans were pretty much persecuted but it just wasn't called a war.

The Irish thing was more political regarding the British in Northern Ireland with the Republic of Ireland, who were Catholic. The religion was one way to differentiate the two but wasn't the cause of the confict.

2007-07-30 13:01:56 · answer #4 · answered by raja 2 · 0 2

Thechurch of england was set up solely for the purpose of a fat bloke wanting shot of his wife. Ireland was yet another country stolen by the british in their massive world empire. Guess what, they aint got nothing no more!
Seriously though, religion is constantly used as an excuse for war, young folks are brainwashed into thinking their god will reward them for murder and mayhem. Its not going to stop. Im pleased that I am a non believer.

2007-07-30 13:08:09 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

There only hasn't been a major war between Christian sects, because they're still trying to get rid of all other religions first. Then they'll start to fight each other.

2007-07-30 13:04:03 · answer #6 · answered by alee522 2 · 1 0

Not to mention that during the colonization of the New World, Quakers and Anabaptists were routinely and publically tortured and even executed by Puritans.

Or that the various Inquisitions and "Burning Times" during the Dark Ages were *really* the persecution of Catholics by Protestants, and of Protestants and divergent Catholic sects by the Catholic church.

Or that Baptists and Pentecostals each think the other is going to Hell, or that both think the Catholics are idolaters.

We could well go on . . .

2007-07-30 13:04:19 · answer #7 · answered by Boar's Heart 5 · 5 1

Thank you. :)

What was Ireland? What was the animosity between England vs Spain & France for hundred(s) of years when England split from Vatican? What were Christian vs Catholic missionaries attempting to convert Indians and Latin Americans?

2007-07-30 13:00:44 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

You got it. Ireland has been a war zone between catholics and protestants for as long as anyone can remember.

BTW, I'll have a nice cellar cold Guinness. Largest glass ya' got.

2007-07-30 13:29:00 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I had to read it twice, but they mean hundreds of sects, and they at least say horrible things about each other and yes, Ireland shows just how low it can go.

2007-07-30 13:02:18 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

That is someone who doesn't know history is all. It's a known fact that christians have warred amoung themselves. Not to mention anyone they could find they wanted to dominate.

2007-07-30 14:00:51 · answer #11 · answered by Janet L 6 · 1 0

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