Christians: HOW did Jesus pray to God?!?

Question

hi dears,

in Matthew 26:39 ‘…he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father…”

Even Paul said:

Hebrews 5:7 “During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.”

Who was Jesus praying to when he fell on his face with loud cries and petitions? Was it himself? Was Jesus crying in tears to himself pleading to be saved from death? No man, sane or insane, prays to himself! Surely the answer must be a resounding ‘No.’ Jesus was praying to “the only true God.” The God Jesus was the servant of, the One Who sent him. Can there be a clearer proof that Jesus was not God?

And The Quran confirms that Jesus called for the worship of the Only True God:
“Truly, God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him (alone). This is the straight path.” (Quran 3:51)

peace to you
anno

Answer 1

Prayer is primarily addressed to the Father; it can also be directed toward Jesus, particularly by the invocation of his holy name: "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on us sinners."


"No one can say ‘Jesus is Lord', except by the Holy Spirit" (1 Cor 12:3). The Church invites us to invoke the Holy Spirit as the interior Teacher of Christian prayer.

Because of Mary's singular cooperation with the action of the Holy Spirit, the Church loves to pray in communion with the Virgin Mary, to magnify with her the great things the Lord has done for her, and to entrust supplications and praises to her.

Answer 2

there is a very similar predicament in islam. and yes, there really isn't any better a proof based on logical reasoning alone that jesus could not have been god (if you're into the whole god thing).

in islam, a person cannot be a true muslim unless he accepts that mohammad is the last prophet. question is: since mohammad was a muslim, did he arrogantly include his name in the prayer?

these are questions religion does not want you to address. i think that there is a god. and i believe that those who really question these things and realize that there is so much crap around god's name and existence are the ones who are "his" true messengers.

some will say jesus was the son of god; well then they wouldn't say Lord Jesus Christs. and a God cannot be incomparable and absolute and still have a son. having a son is a mortal thing.

questioning religious doctrine is like chiseling a sculpture. eventually, you're left with exactly what is perfect and all the excess stone is chipped away. if the statue of David was God, then religion would be the discarded marble.

Answer 3

When Jesus came to this world, he assumed our human nature in totality, except for sin. He was both human and divine. To be our ultimate example, He endured all the human emotions so that we can use Him as our example and pray to God as He did. Jesus' human and divine nature cannot be understood by using our terms. So to say that Jesus was 'praying to himsel' seems right technically, but not completely, as we will never have a complete understanding of the Holy Trinity while in this life. Jesus did also state that He and His Father are one and the same ( John 10:30).

Answer 4

So you don't believe in the threeness of our One God? Then how can you believe in Jesus? Jesus called Himself "I AM." To the Hebrews, of whom He was one, that was outright blasphemy. That name referred to the "One and Only." That was the name of the One who appeared to Moses in the burning bush. But was it the Father?

Exodus 3:2 says, "And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him..." That term "the angel of the Lord", in the OT, did not refer to just an angel of the Lord. It referred to THE angel of the Lord, the One whom Biblical scholars refer to as Jesus Christ. If that were not so, how could Jesus say, "before Abraham was, I AM."

In Genesis 18, notice HOW God appeared to Abraham in the plains of Mamre, shortly before He was to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. He appeared as three men! Why do you think that is?

It's like having a pitcher of water. If you pour some into a glass, the pitcher contains water and the glass contains water. The water doesn't become waters because it is in two places. It's still water. Its composition has not changed. It is no less water than when it was all in the pitcher.

God has also manifested Himself as a pillar of fire, a cloud, and a "wheel within a wheel." Yet He is a person. And His power and dignity have never been diminished, whatever form He has taken. Jesus' "Godness" was not diminished when He "became flesh and dwelt among us..." But He was our example of how to relate to God. As a dependent. As a child.

Answer 5

With in the body of Jesus the Christ was the Spirit of the One True God. Jesus was then the physical manifestation of God the Father.

Despite what you obviously believe, Christians believe in ONE God. But the God in which we believe is so far above our ability to understand that Him having three manifestations (Father, Son and Holy Ghost) may be just the tip of the iceberg. My God is able to reveal Himself anyway he chooses. It ain't up to me. He has only shown me these three ways.

The Qu'ran was written 600 years after the resurrection of Christ and 2,500 years (give or take) after the Torah. That's why there are so similar. Mohammad read the Torah copied it, except to allow it to appear that the sons of Ishmael were on the level of Isaak.

The funny thing is, we're still arguing over it, and Muslims are killing over it, and everyone gets to test their theory.

While Jesus was in His physical body He addressed His Father as a human should address the all powerful Creator of the universe . .. . with reverence.

Answer 6

Hello Anno: In the Bible, King James version, Mattew 6:6, Jesus is saying how to pray. This verse is very important and completely overlooked. Who wants to pray in a closet, in secret. But he supposedly said it. Why in secret? And what does "reward thee openly" mean? Research back in history of the many Saints who have cried out "I am God". And most all of them were killed for saying it. What they saw revealed to them that they were God. You are God Anno. I am God. All the Yahoo people are God. God is the Ocean and you are the drop. You are not separate from God. The very life within you is God. You are, and Jesus was, God manifested in the flesh. Jesus knew it but you don't. God can "reveal himself openly" to you, if you know how to really pray. And when God reveals himself to you, you will cry out "I am that". Read about the Persian mystic, Zarathushtra. His "Gathas". The songs of Shams-i-Tabriz. And other Saints, Maulana Rum, Kabir Sahib. You can KNOW God while you are still living. Jesus knew all of this. But the Christian Church has misunderstood his deeper teachings and has also inserted sayings to further the faith. Any religion which bases it authority on one man, or one book, fails to indicate the way for any other man to gain the same truth and the same spiritual eminence. Peace to you also.

Answer 7

God Almighty is Christ Jesus in ALL His Glory. The Old Testament Scriptures tell us: "No man can see the face of God and live" God could not come to this earth in "All His Glory" or every living thing would have perished. We will see Christ Jesus "In All His Glory" as God Almighty, only in heaven. John 10:25-30 records Jesus' claims about Himself.
If you believe His "Works" (Miracles) why do you reject His Words? Read John 9:39 it explains this very well.
"For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind."
Jesus is saying that those who see Him and witness His miracles will reject Him. Those who do not see His miracles will by faith, Believe Him. Believing in His miracles will not make someone righteous in Gods eyes. Believing in His Words and who He claimed to be makes a person righteous before God. God Bless You....Peace.

Answer 8

You're misunderstanding the concept of the Trinity. Three divine Persons, one God (Examples from creation: The egg is made up of three elements: the shell, the yolk and the white; yet still it's just one egg. Another example: Water can exist in three different forms: liquid, gas, and solid in ice form; yet it's still water).

For the answer to your question, see Matthew:

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name...

Jesus also said: "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6)

What do you make of it?

Check the qu'ran. It states that Jesus (not Muhammad) is coming back to earth. This is consistent with the Bible (see Revelation).

Answer 9

Hi Anno.

I will share with you what I know, in response to your excellent, if somewhat too emphatic, question.

(first i will share that i know, love, and admire Jesus)

Jesus is not God. Jesus when he prays, and also when he just wants to talk to Him, does talk directly to Him. But also can Anyone. Pray And talk directly to Him.

Jesus is sometimes mistaken for God, because at this stage in eternity, God's need is to have a repairman in dominance. Jesus was and is one (of the whole that is us, that is God's Creation) who was given the particular quality of being able to see the Source of that which is unlike God.

When God's creation was new, Jesus was not important. Once the repair of our individual and collective illusions of separateness from each other and from God are fully repaired, he will return to being not the most important piece of the whole which is God's Creation.

His work, which is indeed arduous, will be remembered and appreciated. But he will be returned to a less prominent position, during which he will be rewarded by getting to relax and enjoy the rest of the parts , with their beauty and various uniquenesses, will be taking their turn to shine.

Answer 10

It says He prayed to the FATHER. The other part of the GODHEAD. God, the Father; God the Son; and God, the Holy Spirit. You do not seek the truth, so you shall never find it, nor understand it.

Let's not leave out other verses.
Jesus said "I and the Father ARE ONE!"
Jesus said "IF YOU HAVE SEEN ME, YOU HAVE SEEN THE FATHER, ALSO."
Jeus said "BEFORE ABRAHAM, I AM."
Jesus Christ IS GOD ALMIGHTY, THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA, THE FIRST AND THE LAST, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, THE PRINCE OF PEACE. GOD INCARNATE. IMMANUEL(GOD IS WITH US).
I just don't understand how people who are Christians can say otherwise. If you reject Him as who He really is, You are rejecting God!!! Please do not be deceived!