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Would the creator ever be indebt to his creation?

2007-07-29 19:53:17 · 9 answers · asked by djmantx 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Maramah Your on the right track.
It is not deeds that saves a man but God.

2007-07-29 20:08:31 · update #1

Ahmed If Allah is perfect how can he agree with any sin? There are no degrees if Allah is perfect. Can a rihgteous God agree with any sin? How can any sin be worse than another unless Allah finds some sin more agreeable than others?

2007-07-29 20:12:27 · update #2

Ismail there are tow problems wiht your God
One he is indebt to his creation.
Two he agrees with sin weighing and determining some sins are okay,

2007-07-29 20:14:46 · update #3

Muhamamd was Abraham a pagan?
Abraham said the lord would provide himself a lamb. Salvationw as also taught by Moses as there were two trees in the midst of the garden one being the tree of life.

2007-07-29 20:16:29 · update #4

Red Dragon havent youn heard? We failed the test. Jesus paid for you with his blood. God ia a righteous God there are no lesser sins. The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Chrsit our lord.

2007-07-29 20:38:19 · update #5

Marhama, I would be glad to discuss salvation with you anytime God bless you...you can Message or e-mail me anytime.

2007-07-29 20:41:48 · update #6

Muhammad my friend how can a perfect righteous God measure a man by degrees of sin and degrees of righteousness? Man measures in degrees he is not perfect and can accept small sins... A perfect God can not accept ANY sin and remain perfect

2007-07-30 05:39:23 · update #7

Lawrence good to see you again my friend...I assure you accprding to the God that was before Muhammad NO sin will enter heaven. It is impossible for any sin ot be joined ot a perfect God. It is the reason every man needs the atonement Jesus provided ALL have sinned and God does not judge by degree a man must be perfect ot be joined ot God he does not agree with ANY sin.

2007-07-30 05:42:31 · update #8

Lawrence I said not one sinner will inherit God's kingdom this includes you and me. Though I can assure you that I am sure of my salvation and I have sinned.

2007-07-30 06:30:17 · update #9

Punter using verses that decribe God really doesnt prove anyhting and definitely doesnt answer my question the trinity is God and yes there is only ONE.

2007-07-30 07:06:54 · update #10

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God Almighty is our saviour. Islam is a works-oriented religion, Islam requires that its adherents earn their way to heaven by performing the five pillars of the faith.
Say the confession of faith. A Muslim must confess, "There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is the prophet of God."
Pray. Muslims are supposed to pray five times a day: shortly before sunrise, mid-morning, noon, mid-afternoon, and after sunset.
Give alms. Muslims are to give about 2.5 percent of their wealth.
Fast during Ramadan. For one lunar month, from sunrise to sunset, Muslims are not to allow anything to pass down their throat. Then from sunset to sunrise, they are permitted to eat as little or as much as they want. This is their way of developing discipline and relating to the poor. (Travelers, young children and pregnant or nursing mothers do not need to keep the fast.)

Make a pilgrimage to Mecca. Every Muslim who is financially able is supposed to travel to the birthplace of Islam once in his or her lifetime.

Muslims believe that all their works will be accounted for and that on Judgment Day, if your bad works outweigh your good works, you are going to go to hell. But if your good works outweigh your bad works, you'll probably go to heaven. Also, the mercy of Allah (S.W.T.) is the reason that Allah (S.W.T.) sends His believers to Paradise on the Day of Judgment. The prophet (S.A.W.) said: "None of you will enter Paradise with his deeds", They said: "Not even you, oh messenger of Allah?!", He said: "Not even me unless Allah bestows His mercy upon me." Our sincere Good deeds are means of receiving His mercy. God Almighty is the Judge.

2007-07-29 19:58:52 · answer #1 · answered by Ismail Eliat 6 · 4 1

God never indebt his creation.. He punishes the evil for what they have committed against their brethren in humanity.. and rewards the good for the contrary.. Life would be in Vain if the people burnt by Hitler went to heaven to find their killer there because he's "Saved"...

A man cannot earn salvation.. except by the mercy of Allah, Just like Marhama's clone said...

It's nice to see you again...!

Edit:

Are you saying that all humans after the crucification will go to heaven? Including Hitler, Mosoliny, Saddam Hussien, Murderers, Children rapers, etc?

2007-07-30 05:33:41 · answer #2 · answered by Lawrence of Arabia 6 · 3 1

Allah is fair and forgiving,

All Muslims are promised heaven if they believe in Allah and his messengers and do the five pillars of Islam.

However,
Muslims will be rewarded for how much good they do, and punished for how much bad they do.

The punishments differ from how much bad you do, there is punishments in this life, like going blind, losing a job, getting sick, etc etc etc
There is a punishments in the grave, till the day of judgment.
And some Muslims will go to Hell for a period of time, then go to Heaven.

2007-07-30 03:01:49 · answer #3 · answered by Ahmed A 4 · 4 1

Just imagine this life as a big test, your final grades will come out when you die. If you pass, you will be rewarded (heaven) & if you fail you will be punished (hell). Also, if you pass, how well did you pass? Did you get A+, A, B, C or D? The better grades you get the better is your reward and the same goes for failing. But if you do not follow the right faith, then imagine you are doing the wrong test, what do you think your grade will be?

2007-07-30 03:17:47 · answer #4 · answered by Red Dragon 6 · 2 3

Without doubt, God will subject his servant to reckoning in keeping with the degree of the faculty of reasoning bestowed upon them in their worldly life. Whenever you hear about the absorbing devotion of a man in worship, then pay attention to the degree of his reasonableness. He will be rewarded according to his reasoning capacity

2007-07-30 05:10:48 · answer #5 · answered by MUHAMMAD 5 · 2 1

I really can't understand about salvation concept, and I often asked about it in here,
but, btw, my clone look more more smarter than me


~add~
sure brother, I will mail you
I hope you can answer my confession

2007-07-30 03:19:26 · answer #6 · answered by marhama 6 · 6 0

Salvation is a pagan concept, as pagans are the people still in the process of evolution to be a human of high stature, But the Muslims are people, who reached to their highest stature through enlightenment, So they have crossed the process of salvation already.
Now we Muslims have only one time to die and reach to our eternal life of hereafter, where Allah swt. will finally Judge us and issue the decree of Reward or punishment according to our good or bad deeds in this worldly life.

Allah Knows the best.

2007-07-30 03:04:02 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3 6

Creator can never be indebt his creation.

Man can't earn salvation. Salvation only come by mercy of Allah.

2007-07-30 03:01:21 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4 5

According to Bile, God and Jehovah is Savior
Isaiah 43:11. I, even I, am Jehovah; and beside me there is no savior.
1 Timothy 2:3. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior;
Isaiah 43:3. For I am Jehovah thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Savior: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
Isaiah 45:15. Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Savior.
1 Timothy 4:10. For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, specially of those that believe.
Titus 1:3. But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Savior;

O Bible Believers, why not you reveal your god that Jesus has paid the price of your crimes and sins?
Most of culprits, sinners, alcoholic, adulterous and transgressor Christians are being afflicted with painful torments like STD (Sexually transmitted diseases) including AIDS, Hepatitis. Why not you tell your god that Jesus has paid the price and do not afflict us due out sins, crimes and transgressions??? Or your sins, crimes and transgressions exceeded than price paid by Jesus?????

Does Bible refuse to accept the Jesus as ‘Savior’ and rejects the concept of ransom of Christians’ sins and crimes?
Ezekiel 18:20. The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
James 2:24. Ye see then how that by works a man is just.
Matthew 19:16-17. "And behold, one came up to him, saying, "Teacher, what good deed must I do, to have eternal life?" "And he said to him, "Why do you ask me about what is good? One there is who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments."
James 2:26. "Faith without works is Dead"
Proverbs 21:18. “The wicked is a ransom for the righteous, and the faithless for the upright”

Jesus never said I am your Saviour. Why people declared him savior?
Titus 1:4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Savior.
2 Peter 1:1. Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ:
Luke 2:11. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

Who is actual saviour?
Savior: Repeatedly the Scriptures refer to God as Savior. At Isaiah 43:11 God even says: “Besides me there is no savior.” Since Jesus is also referred to as Savior, are God and Jesus the same? Not at all. Titus 1:3, 4 speaks of “God our Savior,” and then of both “God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior.” So, both persons are saviors. Jude 25 shows the relationship, saying: “God, our Savior through Jesus Christ our Lord.” (Italics added.) (See also Acts 13:23.) At Judges 3:9, the same Hebrew word (moh•shi′a‛, rendered “savior” or “deliverer”) that is used at Isaiah 43:11 is applied to Othniel, a judge in Israel, but that certainly did not make Othniel Jehovah, did it? A reading of Isaiah 43:1-12 shows that verse 11 means that Jehovah alone was the One who provided salvation, or deliverance, for Israel; that salvation did not come from any of the gods of the surrounding nations.

Who is The first and the Last – Alpha and Omega?
Almighty God: At Isaiah 43:10 Almighty God says: “Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me.” Does this mean that, because Jesus Christ is prophetically called “Almighty God” at Isaiah 9:6, Jesus must be God? Again, the context answers, No! None of the idolatrous Gentile nations formed a god before Almighty God, because no one existed before Almighty God. Nor would they at a future time form any real, live god that was able to prophesy. (Isa. 46:9, 10) But that does not mean that Almighty God never caused to exist anyone who is properly referred to as a god. (Ps. 82:1, 6; John 1:1, NW) At Isaiah 10:21 Jehovah is referred to as “mighty God,” just as Jesus is in Isaiah 9:6; but only Jehovah is ever called “God Almighty.”—Gen. 17:1. If a certain title or descriptive phrase is found in more than one location in the Scriptures, it should never hastily be concluded that it must always refer to the same person. Such reasoning would lead to the conclusion that Nebuchadnezzar was Jesus Christ, because both were called “king of kings” (Dan. 2:37; Rev. 17:14); and that Jesus’ disciples were actually Jesus Christ, because both were called “the light of the world.” (Matt. 5:14; John 8:12) We should always consider the context and any other instances in the Bible where the same expression occurs. Application to Jesus Christ by inspired Bible writers of passages from the Hebrew Scriptures that clearly apply to Jehovah – The Almighty God.

2007-07-30 02:56:18 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 7

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