Atheists logic which doesn't make sense?

Question

How is it that an atheist can find it hard to believe in God but they believe that we as humans supposedly evolved over a course of millions of years through random mistakes. That's like saying that a tornado comes through a junkyard then all of a sudden you have a mercedes benz. Wow what was I thinking being a christian. Can somebody please explain this to me?

Answer 1

Evidence. All the components are there. A stratified fossil record, anatomic relationships, molecular relationships and the process has been observed.

Answer 2

Boy, this is a really common argument today, isn't it? At least the third time this has come up. Well, in a valiant effort to beat the evolution debate to death, I will reiterate that:

A) evidence is bountiful on the subject in favor of evolution.

B) It wasn't "random mistakes", as you like to put it. It was organisms adapting and evolving to survive the ever-changing environment. We didn't just show up on the planet as the homo-sapien everyone has come to know and love, nor are we the end of the line. Barring us nuking each other out of existence, we will continue to change and evolve.

and C) the term "theory" actually carries more weight than most folks would care to believe. It is a theory because there is a great deal of evidence, and we know enough and have observed enough to know that it is true here. It is only one step below being a law of nature because we currently can't prove that it's a universal constant.

Answer 3

1. We don't believe that humans evolved from a bunch of mistakes. The term Atheist simply means, "no God". It doesn't explain why we don't believe in God - that varies from person to person. People seem to have the preconceived notion that just because many Atheists beleive in evolution, that it's "the way" of Atheists.
2. Evolution is a lot more logical than believing a giant, divine hand came down from the sky and made everything that it did. Microevolution can be seen even in my or your lifetime. Basic evolution takes millions of years, but it's very, very real - just look at the overwhelming amount of it.

Answer 4

"That's like saying that a tornado comes through a junkyard then all of a sudden you have a mercedes benz."

no it isn't! it's supposed to be a 747, get it right!

i just noticed that the tornado is order-from-disorder, the very thing the example is supposed to disprove.

so it's like saying a rat that eats birds eggs is disproof of the idea that organisms can grow.

Answer 5

We atheists don't believe. That would require faith which we do not posses. Evolution, or any science for that matter is the study and examination of evidence that supports the theory. It is not fact, it's theory. We don't believe humans evolved from other life forms, we simply have found and are studying all of the evidence that suggests we did.

On the other hand, to believe in creation as you obviously do, does require belief and faith. I am not saying that god did not exist. I'm simply saying that there is no evidence to suggest that he did. I'm likewise not saying that evolution is a factual explanation of the ascension of the species either. I'm simply saying that there is an abundance of evidence to suggest that it is a feasible explanation of how we got where we are today. Not a difficult explanation huh?

Answer 6

Scientific arguments against the theory of evolution

a. After more than one hundred years of experimental breeding of various kids of animals and plants, the amount of variation that can be produced (even with intentional, not random, breeding) is extremely limited, due to the limited range of genetic variation in each type of living thing. Dogs that are selective bred for generations are still dogs; fruit flies are still fruit flies, and so forth.
b. The vast and complex mutation required to produce complex organs such as an eye or a bird’s wing (or hundreds of other organs) could not have occurred in tiny mutations accumulating over thousands of generations, because the individual parts of the organ are useless (and give no “advantage”) unless the entire organ is functioning. (The hundreds of parts needed for an eye or a birds wing to work have to all be there, or the other parts are useless and confer no adaptive advantage.) But the mathematical probability of hundreds of such random mutations happening together in one generation is effectively zero.
c. The subsequent 130 years of intensive archaeological activity since Darwin’s time has still failed to produce even one convincing example of a needed “intermediate (or transitional) type,” a fossil that would show some characteristics of one animal and a few characteristics of the next developmental type, which would be necessary to fill in the gaps in the fossil record between distinct kinds of animals .
d. Advances in molecular biology increasingly reveal the incredible complexity of even the simplest of organisms, and no satisfactory explanation for the origin of those differences has been given.
e. Probably the greatest difficulty of all for evolutionary theory is explaining how any life could have begun in the first place. The spontaneous generation of even the simplest living organism capable of independent life (the prokaryote bacterial cell) from inorganic materials on the earth could not happen by random mixing of chemicals; it requires intelligent design and craftsmanship so complex that no advanced scientific laboratory in the world has been able to do it.

Praise to our Creator

Answer 7

Posting a science question in the religion and spirituality section often means the asker does not really want an answer. His goal is to ask a question that he believes proves some scientific knowledge to be wrong, or that science does not yet answer, and make the implicit claim that the only other explanation is a god, and specifically, the same god he happens to believe in.

It's the "god of the gaps" - intellectually bankrupt, since it favors ignorance instead of knowledge, and because of the contained logical fallacy.

However, on the off chance that you really want to know the answer:

Claim CF002.1:

Order does not spontaneously form from disorder. A tornado passing through a junkyard would never assemble a 747.


Response:

This claim is irrelevant to the theory of evolution itself, since evolution does not occur via assembly from individual parts, but rather via selective gradual modifications to existing structures. Order can and does result from such evolutionary processes.

Hoyle applied his analogy to abiogenesis, where it is more applicable. However, the general principle behind it is wrong. Order arises spontaneously from disorder all the time. The tornado itself is an example of order arising spontaneously. Something as complicated as people would not arise spontaneously from raw chemicals, but there is no reason to believe that something as simple as a self-replicating molecule could not form thus. From there, evolution can produce more and more complexity.

Answer 8

i'm a atheist i became and nonetheless am being cited with technological know-how the reason religon exists is by the fact human beings do no longer opt to settle for the certainty that before the human race and dinosaurs and despite there became no longer something. no longer something. no longer something. they do no longer opt to believe that whilst they die. there is not any longer something. no longer something. So somebody desperate that it can be a remarkable concept for tale time. there became those 2 remarkable people who have been created via God a guy interior the sky to commence the human race. Adam and Eve have been his prototypes. And for dying yet another tale. in case you have been sturdy you circulate to heaven. a paranormal place the place all your desires come actual. yet in case you have been undesirable to hell you circulate. the place you would be brutally excuted and stay in a firey dying hollow. even although you have been torture maximum in all probability to dying. You proceed residing in soreness simply by terrible you have carried out. such as the Santa concept. in case you have been sturdy you would be rewarded in case you have been undesirable you're no longer. Religon is the reason in the back of such miserary and extraordinarily violent doings that are distroying our earth. What became before life. no longer something. what's after life. no longer something. Get used to it. no one believes in fairies, unicorns and gnomes why can we by surprise believe of a paranormal realm interior the sky. If god is actual i could opt to inform him what a nasty interest he's doing.

Answer 9

Atheist's don't find God, "hard to believe", but rather we see no point in believing. Random mistakes? Hm, I think that you should read a book on evolution. When your done with it, read Genesis. Then tell me which one is, "hard to believe".

Answer 10

With you sense of reasoning it would be very hard to get it across to you. Tornadoes through a junkyard?

Answer 11

What is amazing is that you didn't think of this yourself. More fundy brainwashing.

The process of evolution works one tiny step at a time over millions of years. A mutation happens. If it is viable, it will be passed on and if not it won't. Therefore only the useful things remain. Total extinctions can happen. Or climates change and something no longer works. Look at how things evolved in Australia with all the marsupials...there it worked, but it's locality prevented those lifeforms from spreading to the rest of the world. I guess I just have to say that I (an atheist) find reality a much more believable option than that an invisible guy in the sky just wishing things into existence and poof they appeared.


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