Ezra Ch. No. 2, Verse No. 65, it says…There were 200 singing men and women - Nehemiah Ch. No. 7, Verse No. 67…‘There were 245 singing men and women.’ Were they 200 - or were they 245 singing men and women?2nd Kings, Ch. No 24, Verse No 8, that…‘Jehoiachin was 18 years old, when he began to reign Jerusalem, and he reigned for 3 months and 10 days. 2nd Chronicles, Ch. No 36, Verse No 9, says that…‘Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he began to reign and he reigned for 3 months, 10 days. Was Jehoiachin 18 years when he began to reign, or was he 8 years old? Did he reign for 3 months, or did he reign for 3 months 10 days?1st Kings, Ch. No 7, Verse No 26, that…‘In Solomon’s temple, in his molten sea, he had 2000 baths. In 2nd Chronicles, Ch. No 4, Verse No 5, he had 3000 baths. Did he have 2000 baths or did he have 3000 baths? I have to many but space is short. will any CHRISTIAN answer it, without rants and sophistries, just to the point answers? Thank u.
2007-07-29
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hahaha... not a single convincing answer?
what a pitty...
christians, you have to show an answer...
or convert
2007-07-29 03:45:07
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answered by Anonymous
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2 Chron. 36 is a known copyist error. Due to space I answered only one of your questions. Feel free to e-mail me on the others.
6. Was Jehoiachin 18 years old (2 Kings 24:8) or 8 years old (2 Chronicles 36:9) when he became king of Jerusalem?
(Category: copyist error)
Once again there is enough information in the context of these two passages to tell us that 8 is wrong and 18 right. The age of 8 is unusually young to assume governmental leadership. However, there are certain commentators who contend that this can be entirely possible. They maintain that when Jehoiachin was eight years old, his father made him co-regent, so that he could be trained in the responsibilities of leading a kingdom. Jehoiachin then became officially a king at the age of eighteen, upon his father's death.
A more likely scenario, however, is that this is yet another case of scribal error, evidenced commonly with numbers. It may be helpful to interject here that there were three known ways of writing numbers in Hebrew. The earliest, a series of notations used by the Jewish settlers in the 5th century BC Elephantine Papyri (described in more detail below) was followed by a system whereby alphabetical letters were used for numbers. A further system was introduced whereby the spelling out of the numbers in full was prescribed by the guild of so-perim. Fortunately we have a large file of documents in papyrus from these three sources to which we can refer.
As with many of these numerical discrepancies, it is the decade number that varies. It is instructive to observe that the number notations used by the Jewish settlers in the 5th century BC Elephantine Papyri, during the time of Ezra and Nehemiah, from which this passage comes, evidences the earlier form of numerical notation. This consisted of a horizontal stroke ending in a downward hook at its right end to represent the numbers in tens (thus two horizontal strokes one above the other would be 20). Vertical strokes were used to represent anything less than ten. Thus eight would be /III IIII, but eighteen would be /III IIII with the addition of a horizontal line and downward hook above it. Similarly twenty-two would be /I followed by two horizontal hooks, and forty-two would be /I followed by two sets of horizontal hooks.
If, then, the primary manuscript from which a copy was being carried out was blurred or smudged, one or more of the decadal notations could be missed by the copyist. It is far less likely that the copyist would have mistakenly seen an extra ten stroke that was not present in his original then that he would have failed to observe one that had been smudged.
In the New International Version (NIV) of the Bible, the corrections have been included in the texts. However, for clarity, footnotes at the bottom of the page mention that earlier Hebrew MSS include the scribal error, while the Septuagint MSS and Syriac as well as one Hebrew MSS include the correct numerals. It only makes sense to correct the numerals once the scribal error has been noted. This, however, in no way negates the authenticity nor the authority of the scriptures which we have.
2007-07-29 09:55:16
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answered by Sternchen 5
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The way numbers were written back then it made it very easy for someone to change. Thus in the 1000"s of years things often got changed little by little. If you want to shake up the people on these small matters it would be way easier to ask why the changes in the NKJ Bible verses the KJ bible. ( OH yes there is changes but I won't be the one to show you where they are. In one case almost half the verse is left out, leaving part of the message out of the bible. Those changes in the bible are going on yet today as you see. However I can still assure you that the meaning of the bible in a whole is the same and Gods work is true.
2007-07-29 09:45:38
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answered by saintrose 6
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i personally find those differences to be very minor. the difference between 200 and 245 is not huge. the point of mentioning Solomon's baths is basically to show that he had A LOT of baths and was a wealthy man. the age difference for Jehoiachin is big, but is he a really major figure in the Bible?
then again, i am a Christian who does not believe the Bible to be completely infallible.
2007-07-29 09:37:46
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answered by KellyKapowski 3
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regarding the 3000 baths, on Chronicles, it states there 'received and held', which means the full capacity of the baths which is 3000. It is able to withstand 3000 baths. For the baths on 1st Kings, the word 'contain' speaks of the usual capacity which is 2000. not usually filled up to its maximum capacity. Both verses harmonize...
Regarding Ezra and Nehemiah, they have different sources. For Nehemiah, his sources came from the book of genealogy (Neh 7:5). On Ezra, i believe his sources came from actual count. Anyway, the whole congregation together was the same on the two books. (Neh. 7:66; Ezra 2: 64)
2007-07-29 11:27:17
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answered by Jay R 2
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Your Questions are not motivated by a desire to know but a desire to ridicule Holy Christian Writers. Even today,and with all the modernity,the description of an event will differ in several ways by witnesses of the same incident.
Instead of reading the Numbers ,read it as " There were significant numbers of people singing.Instead of bothering about the exact Numbers. When reading about Jeholachin ,read it as " He was very Young when he began his reign,that lasted for a short time. Ref Solomons Baths ,read it as the were a several thousands of baths .This is confirmed by different independent accounts.
2007-07-29 09:47:11
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answered by Anonymous
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Would it matter if we did?
You obviously don't want to believe so don't.
Can you judge crowd size with a glance?
The fact of the matter is that people estimate numbers and round up and down, all the time.
I don't know how old Jehoiachin was and it does not have any relevance other than he existed for a time.
So if you are hung up on these things you are pulling away from God. The question you need to answer is why you are here asking questions.
Is it because you know God exists but are unwilling to accept Him because it would require a change of lifestyle?
If you need proof look down (it is Gods creation.) breathe (God's Oxygen) Procreate (Gods gift for reproduction).
2007-07-29 09:38:24
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answered by easyericlife 4
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The books were written at different times by different people with different perceptions. No one counted each and every person (point is there were allot of them)or each and every bath ( point is the places was big decked out) and the point is the boy was young. Read the bible to get the message the big picture, do not legalistically pick it apart to find untruths or you will never hear what God is trying to say. Hope that was to the point and answered your heart.
2007-08-01 00:41:09
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answered by A D 2
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I am a non believer but I really can't get that worked up over a misplaced 0 in a book that goes back thousands of years and was at first not in a written form but was passed on by word of mouth.I am sure there are far bigger anomalies in the bible not to mention the the pure fiction and dare I say it the downright lies.
2007-07-29 09:51:02
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answered by Anonymous
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There are all kinds of things wrong with the bible- but try not to let it bother you. Know its not perfect, but that does not mean its not good.
And SL - what kind of answer is bad math. The entire Egyptian technology is based on math, hello pyramids, astrological calendars. Advanced math was around back then.
2007-07-29 09:46:43
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answered by Boanerges 2
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Heres the answer to all of the 101 Muslim misconceptions you wished you could have asked about. actually Chrsiitans answer these everyday most of which are miscinceptions by a man who did not know God others are deliberately trying to deceive.
http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/contrads.htm
2007-07-31 03:53:04
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answered by djmantx 7
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