"E" recently asked a question about salvation. Many people answered saying that those who couldn't make decisions like children and the mentally ill would nevertheless get into heaven. But my Catholic friends tell me this is wrong, that unless you are baptized, you're condemned to limbo as a child or to hell if you can make a decision. What does your religion tell you?
2007-07-28
23:52:59
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There's no way I can choose a best answer, so I leave it to the voters. I'm sorry to learn that the Christians who answered believe that the 4.2 billion of us are doomed to hell. I can't believe this is so.
2007-07-31
13:38:27 ·
update #1
There's no way I can choose a best answer, so I leave it to the voters. I'm sorry to learn that the Christians who answered believe that the 4.2 billion of us who are not Christian are doomed to hell. I can't believe this is so and I am sorry to note that this is why the world is constantly at war-- because too many believers in many religions believe the rest of us will and should go to hell.
2007-07-31
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It's idiotic beliefs like that, which are the reason I am not religious. Any religion that is ok with condemning a child or the mentally disadvantaged to some kind of horrific torture in "the afterlife"simply because they've not been flicked with water by a priest, or some other dude in a dress, is not a religion I could in good conscience be remotely interested in supporting. It sickens me, it really does, to imagine people out there subscribe to that kind of nonsense.
2007-07-29 00:45:32
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answered by Anonymous
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As a Christian for over 37 yrs. & also reading & stydying the bible for this long, I find no scripture where it says we are to baptize a baby,That is a false doctrince that came in years later by the catholic church. That baby would go to heaven , First of all Salvation is not just being baptized, You need repentence to God, ask Your Catholic Friend, if he/she have repented of their sins, & was they baptized according to how Pteter Baptized people, Peter Never sprinkle anyone, But he did baptize many by complete immursion in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Ask your friend these things & watch how they scrworm
2007-07-29 07:19:52
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answered by birdsflies 7
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First, your Catholic friends are somewhat mistaken. While Catholics affirm that the rite removes original sin, they are also open to the fact that God will show mercy on those who have not yet reached the age of reason. Unbaptized babies aren't just relegated to Hell or Limbo.
My denomination denies that baptism removes original sin. Baptism is still a covenant though, replacing circumcision, and babies are under that covenant. Christian parents conduct their household in a Christian manner, and everyone in that household is marked for God's kingdom, sinners saved by grace.
2007-07-31 00:04:42
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answered by ccrider 7
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The real reason behind child baptism in the Catholic church is far from scriptural. It is not done in the name of Jesus Christ, but in the name of the Catholic Church! The RCC already knows that if they baptize an infant baby or child before they grow to the age of understanding the TRUE word of God, they would probably end up committed to the Catholic doctrine for the rest of their life. Not ever questioning the real truth behind this heresy and deception of the RCC. By perpetuating this lie, they tend to bring in countless numbers of blind followers in the name of the RCC and their unscriptural doctrine, not in the name of Jesus Christ and His true scriptural teachings (which is based only on the true scriptural meaning of baptism). Satan has done a fine job in recruting scores of victims, who unwittingly lay their offspring upon the alter of deception. The true scriptual meaning of babtism is made clear in "THE" Bible.......Not the "new and improved" Catholic version of the Bible..........Infant baptism is objectionable for several reasons.
First, infant baptism is an unauthorized change in God's pattern for baptism. God tells us whom to baptize. He tells the conditions people must meet in order to be baptized, but babies do not fit. To baptize babies is to act by human authority without divine authority.
Second, infant baptism leads people to believe they are saved when they are not. God requires people to be baptized for the remission of sins when they are old enough to make their own decision about the matter. But many people have been baptized as babies. Then, when they are old enough to be responsible for their conduct so they should be baptized, they refuse because they believe they have already done so. But their infant baptism was not Scriptural. So the person goes through his whole life never having been Scripturally baptized, and therefore he never has received forgiveness of his sins!
A final objection to infant baptism is that it is almost always done by sprinkling or pouring, not by immersion. But the Bible says that baptism is a burial (Rom. 6:4; Col. 2:12). A person must go down into the water and come up out of it (Acts 8:38,39; Mark 1:9,10). Bible baptism requires much water (John 3:23). Infant baptism does not fit God's pattern on any of these points. The evidence clearly shows that Bible baptism is an immersion, not a sprinkling or pouring.
What should a person do if their baptism was not done the way the Bible teaches? They should realize that they simply have not yet obeyed God, and they need to obey God by being baptized according to the Bible (Acts 19:1-6). If this is your need, you should try to find a faithful local church belonging to Christ and be baptized .......Scripturally!
2007-07-29 07:38:32
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answered by TIAT 6
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Since I have no religion, I'm free to be semi-rational. If kids, being innocent, have no clue about heaven or hell or anything in between, it means they cannot be held accountable to anyone's idea of God. Since that's the case, anyone who assumes babies and young children go to hell, and worse, professes such a ludicrous thing, they're rotten to the bones. They're lost, confused, scared and sick individuals for sending babies to their made up hell.
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PS- Anyone who TELLS a child that if they don't believe this or that crap, they'll go to hell, is a savage.
2007-07-29 06:58:07
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answered by Meow 5
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Baptism is not salvation. The bible makes this clear:
"That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
Romans 10:9
Baptism is just used to show the church (our fellow believers) the change that has occured in our lives.
As for children go...
There isn't a specific verse in the Bible that mentions all the children going to heaven..
however, when David son dies at a very young age, he says that he will see him in heaven.
Most Christians believe that God is a Just God and will judge us on what we KNOW not what we do not know.
God Bless,
-Baldwin
2007-07-29 07:00:31
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answered by B-kid 2
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I don't have any man made religions, they are all made from man. As far as anyone goes we are all going to the same place. Baby's, you and I are innocent, you don't need dunking in water. I was baptized it got me absolutely no where, the only good religions do is make wars to keep the population under control, but there are birth control pills so why do we need wars?>>>>>RELIGIONS AND WAR GO HAND IN HAND
2007-07-29 07:05:39
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answered by lonetraveler 5
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The Roman Catholic church no longer recognizes limbo. Children who die (free of sin) go directly to heaven. Pope Benedict finished off the final touches of it, although it had been something the previous Pope was working on. It was announced maybe 3 months ago.
No more purgatory either, in case you didn't know.
2007-07-29 07:00:38
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answered by apple juice 6
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My religion no longer exists due, in no small part, to rubbish like that. A child is holy and sacred and held by the Great Mother. No harm can befall that soul. Not even by catholics!
2007-07-29 09:01:43
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answered by hedgewitch18 6
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I was raised catholic and they told me the same nonsense.
I would not allow any of my kids to be baptized because I had faith that God was not the idiot the catholic church was saying She was.
Love and blessings Don
2007-07-29 06:57:50
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answered by Anonymous
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