in a machine gun? fully auto? just curious, its my favorite, not too big ban not to small with loads of power.
2007-07-28 16:21:44 · 10 answers · asked by smoothopr_2 4 in Sports ➔ Outdoor Recreation ➔ Hunting
As been said before, the .357 magnum design is not really optimal for an autoloader, though some companies have/do make it (like Desert Eagle). The .357 sig was designed to replicate the ballistics of the magnum in a more friendly autoloader design. Why no .357 mag in a machine gun? Why? If you are talking a real machine gun like an UZI (9mm) or Thompson Submachine gun (.45) the .357 packs alot more recoil. True "Machine Guns" are handgun calibers that shoot out alot of bullets but do not go a long range, or have much "punch" at battlefield distances. The "Assualt Rifle" was designed to bridge the gap providing the firepower of a machine gun with the power of a rifle cartridge. If you are talking about "Assault Rifles" the rifle cartridges like the .223 in an AR or the 7.62x39 in the AK are much more powerful than the .357 mag round or any HANDGUN round. The muzzle velocity of a .357 is about 1800 fps. An AR has a muzzle velocity of 3200 fps. An AK has a muzzle velocity of around 2400fps. The .357 would just be too weak for an assault rifle round, and too powerful for a machine gun round.
2007-07-28 20:51:19 · answer #1 · answered by Paul V 2 · 2⤊ 4⤋
The .357 Magnum is a great revolver cartridge. In fact, to date it is the best man stopper known in the 125 grain semi-jacketed hollow point configuration fired out of a 4" barrel. However, it is NOT the best choice for fully automatic weapons. Here rimless bottleneck cartridges work best as they are more likely to feed. The .357 Mag. besides having a rather large rim is on the long side which may cause a misfeed under rapid fire.
At least two companies successfully manufactured semi automatic pistols for this caliber. The Coonan and the Desert Eagle were both chambered for the .357 Magnum. The Desert Eagle is still available but Coonan went under. Too bad. The Desert Eagle is rather big especially for casual or concealed carry. The Coonan was not much larger than your 1911 Colt. Now you can purchase a pistol chamber in .357 Sig which is on paper ballistically very similar to the .357 Magnum revolver cartridge. The old .38 Super also came close to .357 Mag performance in an auto loader. I hope to buy one of these before the end of the year. I do own a Glock Model 31 in .357 Sig and have been meaning to compare it side by side to my .357 Magnum revolvers, but have not found the time.
Good luck.
H
2007-07-29 02:11:22 · answer #2 · answered by H 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The 357 Magnum has been made in semi auto version of the Colt 1911 by the Coonan Arms company.
Not only was the 357 Magnum made in semi auto but so was the 41 and 44 magnum also.
It is possible to make a full auto with the 357 Magnum but not practical.
I to am a fan for the 357 Magnum for hunting and self defense but I feel the 357 Sig would be more practical in full auto then the standard 357 Magnum.
Coonan Arms Model " A " 357 Magnum Auto
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2007-07-28 17:53:39 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Soulsource is wrong on this one. Its design, being a rimmed cartridge doesn't prevent it from usage in a machine as defined by a full auto firearm. The British WW2 rifle know as the "Bren" used a rimmed cartridge "303 British" in double stack magazines with success.
Rimmed cartidges can be used in single or double stack magazines reasonably well provided that one, carefully loads the rounds making sure that the rims don't bind on perviously loaded rounds.
Particularly 357 usually hasn't been offered in semi auto or full auto for several reasons. One is that there have been plenty of other calibers that have worked well in full and semi auto firearms, that there wasn't a need for such a firearm. Unless it was verry carefully loaded, it would jam rounds in the magazine easily. Belt fed would be the easiest way around this, but a belt fed rifle in 357 magnum wouldn't be very useful, plus its range would be short as compared to belt fed rifles in 223, 308, or 30-06.
2007-07-28 17:34:48 · answer #4 · answered by Matt M 5 · 4⤊ 1⤋
There is the M1 carbine is about the closest thing.The 357 has a rim on the back of the casing it is made to be shot out of a revolver or a tube magizine.Auto rounds like 30 carbine have a groove insted of a rim made for seni auto shooting.
2007-07-29 05:53:02 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
It's a revolver cartridge, therefore rimmed for ease of extraction from the cylinder.
Unfortunately, the rim makes feeding from a box-type magazine unreliable, the rounds hang up on each other.
And there you go. There have been some few semi-autos for this round, but not many and not without issues.
2007-07-28 16:25:35 · answer #6 · answered by Ohari1 3 · 5⤊ 0⤋
I wonder if any one has tried this is an old style crank Gatling gun, That would be a blast!!
2007-07-28 19:31:35 · answer #7 · answered by Jon 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
.357 sig is 357 mag. in auto pistol.
2007-07-29 03:50:36 · answer #8 · answered by bghoundawg 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
It can't be a fully or semi-auto because of the bullet design. However Sig Arms makes a 357sig, that is identical to the 357mag in ballistics.
2007-07-28 17:19:22 · answer #9 · answered by soulsource7 3 · 0⤊ 5⤋
Because of its limited range and because of the caliber*...
2007-07-29 01:32:42 · answer #10 · answered by dca2003311@yahoo.com 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋