Fallen Heros?

Question

As General S. Patton put it,"No bastard has ever won a war by dying for his country,he won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country!"

Heros don't fall and die,they serve & protect

You know,if some of you people would actually pay attention for once and quit trying to look for an opening to talk out your *** because you don't like someone or because you don't agree with them you may just actually understand the damn question and dare I say start to RESPECT other peoples' opinions & point of views wether you agree with them or not.
I have asked ligitimate serious question on YA in the past and it is rare that I get an honest serious answer while most seems to just want to backlash and talk straight out their ***
In my opinion there is absolutely no such a thing as a fallen hero because that just don't make any freaking sense at all
My brother is a retired Army sgt. and even though he served in Desert Storm he does not consider himself a hero but just a plain,simple ordinary soldier nor does he want a pad on the back for something that he was trained to do.
Simply put,the military makes soldiers while the media and other groups makes "fallen heros"

Jason K :

You need to get a grip and at most get a clue,you are the kind of people that I awas just referring to earlier,you get on here talking out your butt trying to lash out at me for something that obviously you don't have half the intelligence to understand what I am getting at ,you moron.
So I suggest that if you and the rest of these piss ants are going to continue to expose your low IQ to me then you need to shut your pie hole up before you further embarress yourself.

woodchipper,you can either think for yourself or continue to drink the likes of Jason K's kool-aid who has shown that he can't disagree with someone without insulting them and criticizing them for something that is minor as mispelling a few words.
Fact is,I can spell very good but what the problem really is that I type and send or post things on here without checking for words that I may have unknowingly and unintentionally have misspelled so unless you can disagree with me without attacking me then all you are doing is expressing your immaturity and your rebuttal has no real value.

Answer 1

Blueridge: A true hero will almost always deny that status.

I do often use Pattons quote. It is a good one.

There are many living Medal of Honor recipients in this country. Nearly to a man, they are quiet and state that it is their fallen comrades that deserved the nations highest medal.

In Mogadishu, two Delta Force Snipers demanded to be put down on the second black hawk that went down. They fought off thousands of Somalis, never gave up, even when wounded, expended every round they had in 3 weapons each and saved the life of a pilot that was later taken hostage.

They died. They were heroes. Like all heroes, they risked their own lives to save the lives of others. They did so with the full knowledge that they were going into a suicidal situation. They did so, because they had hope that even though they were only two men, they could hold off the hourdes long enough for help to arrive. They did not want to die and they did everything they could to keep from dying and to protect the pilots and crew of that blackhawk, who were injured.

Sometimes heroes die. In our current war, two have received the Medal of Honor and are highlighted on my blog. Unfortunately, they gave their lives, but they saved the lives of the soldiers around them.

Sometimes heroes die. Sometimes, that's when we find out they were heroes.

Answer 2

I believe what Jason K said holds a lot of truth to the so called question at hand. You HAVE taken something that was meant as a motivational tool, and turned it into something thats almost blasphemous. I went over to the sand box twice in 5 years, and I feel the same way that your brother does. But at the same time, all the men and women that served and fell over there are hero's to me. Before you go on a rant about how someone posses' less intelligence than you, make sure that you can make 5 complete words without a misspelling. Then you can preach about lack of intellect on here.

Answer 3

I'm not a veteran and no-one in my family is either (all had Farmers' deferments during any draft-able conflict in the 20th century) but I have to take issue with your comment - especially because it doesn't even seem to be a question. I'm a patriotic young man and I've spent much of my leisure time reading and studying the conflicts and the men and women who gave not only their lives, but their youth to this nation. Go read Band of Brothers by Stephen Ambrose and then rent the miniseries and watch the faces of these men, now in their 70's, 80's, and 90's and tell me that your statement is not hollow. Your bastardizing a comment made by a man much smarter than you that was made to motivate HIS HEROS to do something unthinkable.

Get out of my sight.


Addendum:
I only speak out of one orifice (nor two sides of my head)- and I don't need to clarify my words. When I say something, I get it right the first time. I speak with veterans and volunteer with groups that help some of our aging veterans. Their comments are always consistent: "I'm not a hero, the men, my friends many of them, that we left over there (Korea, Europe, Pacific) are the heroes."

Learn to spell, present your questions and ideas clearly, and think through the implications of your statements before they are aired to the world. Once you've mastered this, Grasshopper, you'll be on my plain.

Answer 4

Another view is someone who is just doing his/her job when somebody saw it and reported it. To me there are many heroes both in and out of the military/police/fire type services. The family man who goes to work every day and quietly does his job doing the best he can to earn a living, support his family and teach them the values of Americans. The long distance trucker who get their load there on time, the teacher who helps a struggling student, the coach who teaches living by the rulse and fair play. Don't for get these heros.

Answer 5

all those who have given their lives in the service of their country, are heros,my friend. some heros come home,MOST DO NOT. your brother, certainly deserves a pat on the back for doing a job that too many(so called citizens) are too cowardly to step up for. they just want to reap the benefits without paying the price. we should remember those who serve,and THOSE WHO HAVE FALLEN.

Answer 6

Well all our military service members are serving and protecting, some have fallen but they died trying to protect our country. I would still consider them a hero, but I can see your point, I think. Which is to kill those damn insurgents!!

Answer 7

One becomes a hero by joining the fight, Dieing does NOT take that away from them.

Answer 8

Unfortunately, many heroes do fall and die while serving and protecting.

Answer 9

You are undeserving of the rights our nation's FALLEN HEROES have fought to protect!

Answer 10

Well, when one of them does get killed in the line of duty, they are fallen heroes. No way around that, really...