If one is supreme - Jesus or Krishna or none then....?

Question

I ask defendants establish their logical stand against the following.

The Krishna and Christian Jesus Parallels:

The parallels (similarities) of the hundu Krishna Myth to the Christian Jesus myth are strong evidence that Christianity stole/borrowed elements of the older myth.
In comparing the Krishna and Jesus myths, some of the references of the Jesus myth are stories found in the so-called Apocryphal Gospels, the early Christian writings which were not accepted for the Christian canon, which includes the Gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John, the Acts, and other letters.

Special note will be made of the Apocryphal Gospel references.

The Apocryphal Gospel myths are included because they give additional mythological information not found in the Canonic Gospels.

Because we are interested in the total Jesus myth, this additional information is included.


John G. Jackson, Christianity Before Christ, American Atheist Press, P.O. Box 2117, Austin, TX 78768...

John G. Jackson, Christianity Before Christ, American Atheist Press, P.O. Box 2117, Austin, TX 78768-2117, 1985.

The crucifixion of Krishna: Thomas Inman, M.D., Ancient Faiths, Vol. I, p. 411, cited by Thomas William Doane in Bible Myths and Their Parallels in Other Religions, New Hyde Park, New York, NY, University Books, 1970, p. 186, cited by John G. Jackson, Christianity Before Christ, American Atheist Press, P.O. Box 2117, Austin, TX 78768-2117, 1985, p. 80.

http://www.bobkwebsite.com/krishnajesusmyths.html


(B) Now again I wish to know the views of the respective believers of Christianity and Hinduism that wherether there is any contradiction between Lord Jesus and Lord Krishna or is there any supermacy of one to the other?

Are they similar in nature or one is the representative of God while the other is Devil - what is your interpretation and why?

"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

As Lord Jesus Christ said, we should hate the sin, not the sinner. That is a very nice statement, because the sinner is under illusion. He is mad. If we hate him, how can we deliver him? Therefore, those who are advanced devotees, who are really servants of God, do not hate anyone. When Lord Jesus Christ was being crucified, he said, "My God, forgive them. They know not what they do." This is the proper attitude of an advanced devotee. He understands that the conditioned souls cannot be hated, because they have become mad due to their materialistic way of thinking.

Answer 1

No they are different facets of the same gem of truth. Those who speak disparagely, speak out of their ignorance as they have not read the words of whatever one they "demonize". If they speak condemnation then they demonstrate that their spirituality is mere words and "spoken faith" as they demonstrate no internal change from the Spirit. They condemn themselves.

There are common themes for many of the schools within Hinduism that can be found in the Vedic scriptures, and such works as the Bhagavad Gita. Remember yoga originated out of Hinduism. Most people only know the physical forms of yoga, called hatha, but those techniques area actually preparatory techniques for the higher practices of the spiritual types of yoga such as jnana, karma, and bhakti. You can practice a form of hatha but it helps to be grounded and centered in some sense in the higher forms of yoga or all you are doing is stretching. In the highest practices of yoga, they all lead to complete bhakti - surrender.

If you are interested in the yoga teachings of Lord Krishna, then one thing you may want to focus on to learn and practice in a more nonsectarian manner is the Uddhava Gita. The Uddhava Gita is a summation of the essence of the Bhagavad Gita (and the simplest and most direct practice of yoga), and so it is eminently suitable for nonsectarian, universal teaching which is the essence of Hinduism.

Here is a short summation of the Uddhava Gita which is found in the Srimad Bhagavatam (also known as Bhagavata Purana) 11.7:

EPILOGUE - LORD KRISHNA'S LAST SERMON

At the end of another long sermon comprising of more than one thousand verses, disciple Uddhava said: "O Lord Krishna, I think the pursuit of God as You narrated to Arjuna (in the Bhagavad Gita), and now to me, is very difficult indeed, for most people; because it entails control of unruly senses. Please tell me a short, simple, and easy way to God-realization." Lord Krishna upon Uddhava's request gave the essentials of Self-realization as follows:

· Do your duty, to the best of your ability, for Me without worrying about the outcome.

· Remember Me at all times. (Note that this is the point of chanting things like the mahamantra - Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Kare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare which is often chanted in kirtan or a variation of it. The whole point of kirtan and mantra is remembrance.)

· Perceive that God is within every living being. Mentally bow down to all beings and treat all beings equally.

· Perceive through the activities of mind, senses, breathing, and emotions that the power of God is within you at all times, and is constantly doing all the work using you as a mere instrument and a trustee.

I recommend the International Gita Society as they are nonsectarian, offer affordable translations of the Bhagavad Gita with commentary, and can help teach you the basics without having to spend a lot of money or submit to some guru you know nothing about:

http://www.gita-society.com/

http://www.gitainternational.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Gita_Society

They also have an online Gita study and discussion forum:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gita-talk/

I hope these are helpful!

Answer 2

There is very little that is new under the sun.

"There are many dozens of events in the gospels that are very similar, or identical, to incidents which appeared centuries before, in the stories of Pagan hero/saviors. These "god-men" were worshiped by the priesthood and laity of Mediterranean and Middle Eastern religions.

Modern-day conservative Christians generally discount the similarities between gospel and pagan stories. Some of the most radical of liberal Christians see Jesus as simply the Jewish equivalent of a Pagan savior, such as the Egyptian Horus, Hindu Krishna, or Greek Dionysus. They view Jesus' biography in the gospels as having been largely lifted from Paganism."

" "...are our..[beliefs] to be accounted myths and theirs [the Christians'] believed? What reasons do the Christians give for the distinctiveness of their beliefs? In truth, there is nothing at all unusual about what the Christians believe..." Celsus, late 2nd century CE, commenting on the similarities between the beliefs of Christians and followers of other religions."

Answer 3

Jesus Christ is not myth. You will find out on judgment day. Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that He is God. When you try giving Him the flimsy excuse, that you really didn't believe He is real, He will tell you, "you have no excuse, for the proof of me is everywhere" as He casts you into Hell and seals the door forever and ever. Then you will have gnashing of teeth and much wailing and crying as you are able to see the saved in Heaven being pampered, as you rot in your just reward of Hell because your sins will all be in the book for everyone to see and no matter how hard you try you can't span the chasm, separated from Him forever. How happy I am, not to be you on that day. While you still have breath you need to accept the free gift of salvation so your sins will be covered in the blood of Jesus Christ and you are washed clean, before it is too late, you are not promised another moment. I will pray for you. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father except through Him.

Answer 4

The defense will respond by saying Krishna was created by the christian devil. They can't separate the myth from reality.

Answer 5

christianity did not ''steal'' from any other religion.
Jesus WAS NOT A MYTH

Answer 6

JESUS!!!