person above and beyond "followers"? Without them even knowing it?
2007-07-28
11:00:24
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Dagah, the whole point being someone who asks for no reward. But they feel the need to help others in need out of pure kindness.
2007-07-28
11:13:29 ·
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Luvdalz, no that person doesn't want to go to a heaven with a Christian God, they just want to help others for the sake of kindness.
2007-07-28
11:16:06 ·
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Josh W., but the non christian doesn't want the brownie points with god. And is out to help humans for the sake of kindness, not to impress a god.
2007-07-28
11:19:55 ·
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Sunset, again the non christian isn't wanting heaven. Doesn't want to do good to please a god, and doesn't want to earn anything. They help for pure kindness.
2007-07-28
11:22:03 ·
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David G., you are dodging my question. The non believer doesn't want heaven if you paid him. He wants to help others without want or need for a reward in the end.
2007-07-28
11:40:40 ·
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It gives them a moral high ground, yes. That's quite obvious.
It's a fact that some believers are very uncomfortable with.
2007-07-28 11:04:46
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answered by extton 5
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God die for the world that they may have internal life. He open the doors to heaven. Yes, it is possible for a none Christian to go to heaven, if he love truth (Christ is the light of the world and the truth), and did not know Jesus Christ. These none Christian must love others as himself and is willing to die for other as Christ did and fallow his truth. Then he will have internal life and will be save and go heaven. Most other none monolithic religions, they have some essence the God that we believe, and some sort of essence life still like in Christianity, but imperfect. They other which are monolithic are closer to Christianity. On the nonemonolithic is like a man (man an imperfect creature) is looking for God with his imperfectabilities to understand the mysteries of life and world around him. Christianity more perfect in defining what is a God because God come to man and becomes one of them and God reveals himself to man. God is a perfect being that why make him a God.
Replay: Could be the possibility that he loves the truth and will love to be in heaven with Jesus Christ. Plus, God it a righteous judge will give him a chance to enter heaven because he did not know Christ. If I did misunderstand your question make clear, at the begging that does not want go to heaven.
2007-07-28 18:37:42
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answered by Original Christian 2
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Yes and no. From a secular viewpoint, I would lean toward yes, and there might be a sense from the Christian perspective where the answer would also be yes. One of Jesus' most famous parables is "The Good Samaritan." Jesus' larger point in that story was to show the "followers" that those to whom God would show favor was drastically opposite from what the "followers" would expect. The other side of that story is the more traditional explanation one would find from most pulpits in the postmodern evangelical church: "here is a guy who we think deosn't have things right, and Jesus' is saying we should be more like him."
Where I say no, from a Christian perspective, is that all are on equal footing in the eyes of God according to their works, "followers" and non-followers alike. The Bible, in one of its great Genesis to Revelation consistencies, goes to great lengths to show that man does not find favor with God through his works. Saint Paul, who wrote much of the New Testament, likens man's good works to, in a direct translation from the Greek, "menstrual rags" in the eyes of the Lord, because our goodness is always tainted with sin. Thus regardless of whether a "follower" or a non-follower is doing the good work, it has no impact on his or her character. This is not to detract from the work itself, as God extolls good works. It simply means that we can't earn Brownie Points with God.
2007-07-28 18:15:01
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answered by Anonymous
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I think I understand your point. Believers are good, not because works will get us to heaven, but to please our God. If the unbeliever is good just to be good, that probably takes more initiative or "ingrained goodness".
It brings up a question though - absent a creator with a desire for "goodness", why would one animal in the animal kingdom decide to place the good of others of its species ahead of its own? Survival of the fittest seems to go along with Nietzsche's point of view that looking out for number one is always the way to go - "What's good for me is what I should go for, and will result in the weak of our species being eliminated, and the strong reproducing..."
So I ask - What do you think can cause the human animal to do this (when no other species does to the extent we do) if not God?
2007-07-28 19:03:36
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answered by teran_realtor 7
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Good works is not what saves. Sin passes down through the seed of man. Jesus was not born using the seed of man, and therefore without sin. He died on the cross and gave His own blood that others that believed in their hearts what Jesus did and confessed it with their mouths could be saved.
When a person receives Jesus as Lord and Savior, their inner man is born again and they are a new creation in Christ Jesus. The blood of Jesus is what buys peoples salvation by faith.
2007-07-28 18:10:45
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answered by wordoflifeb216 3
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If a person is doing it to be prideful of being above and beyond I think that kind of degrades the selflessness, but it is certainly commendable of people to be humane without the need for additional motivation beyond seeing other benefit
2007-07-28 18:05:25
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answered by eldude 5
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Christians are saved through the blood of Jesus. He died for us so we would go to Heaven. God sent His Son because He loves us.
We help others because we want to.
Matthew 25:40 -- And the King will say, ‘I tell you the truth, when you did it to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were doing it to me!’
2007-07-29 07:12:34
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answered by kaz716 7
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Christians don't believe that you can "earn" your way into heaven by good works. Salvation is by the grace of God alone, a gift.
Protestants believe that grace is "earned" by faith alone.
Catholics, by faith and the proper administration of the sacrements.
Chrustians help others because it is what Christ taught.
2007-07-28 18:14:21
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answered by IdontknowbutIvebeentold 1
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No,If I understand your question.If you are referring to good works,all will miss the boat.God's salvation doesn't work on a merit
system as a lot of false teaching churches do.
Salvation is a free gift to the believer.The person that puts their faith and trust in God's
son for the attonement for their sins.Not
good works!
2007-07-28 18:16:09
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answered by Anonymous
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No, because then he'd be trying to get to Heaven by his "works", and that's not how you get to Heaven.
God would know that that person was just trying to make himself look good.
2007-07-28 18:12:25
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answered by FUNdie 7
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