the ones that dont believe in the Trinity?

Question

and the ones that do, why is this your beliefs? i know Trinity is not in the bible, but neither is rapture and yet we believe in the taking away. John 1:1 God came in the flesh, can anyone explain this?

Answer 1

The Trinity is not explicity mentioned in the Bible, but it is implied many times throughout.

Old Testament: Then God (singular) said, "Let US (plural) make man in OUR image according to OUR likeness..." Gen. 1:26

New Testament: "So wherever you go, make disciples of all nations: Baptize them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." Matthew 28:19

Christians believe that the one True God is three,seperate, eternal beings. God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit. Each is 100% God and all three are one God. God the Father "generates" God the Son from all eternity. God the Son is eternally "begotten" (come forth) from the Fahter eternally and The HOly Spirit has eternally proceeded from both The Father and the Son. God the Son took on human nature and becamed Jesus Christ 2000 years ago. Jesus is both distinctly True Man and True God in one divine person since the incarnation. The God-Man, Jesus Christ came to save the world by his passion,death, and resurrection! Praise the LORD! God bless.

Answer 2

Where does John 1:1 show the trinity? Where does it speak of 3 coequal persons combining to make up one God? It doesn't.

The trinity includes the following definite ideas:

1. There are said to be three divine persons—the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit—in the Godhead.

2. Each of these separate persons is said to be eternal, none coming before or after the other in time.

3. Each is said to be almighty, with none greater or lesser than the other.

4. Each is said to be omniscient, knowing all things.

5. Each is said to be true God.

6. However, it is said that there are not three Gods but only one God.

I invite you to search the Bible, especially the 27 books of the Christian Greek Scriptures, to see for yourself if Jesus and his disciples taught a Trinity. As you search, ask yourself:

1. Can I find any scripture that mentions “Trinity”?

2. Can I find any scripture that says that God is made up of three distinct persons, Father, Son, and holy spirit, but that the three are only one God?

3. Can I find any scripture that says that the Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom?

Search as you may, you will not find one scripture that uses the word Trinity, nor will you find any that says that Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom. Not even a single scripture says that the Son is equal to the Father in those ways—and if there were such a scripture, it would establish not a Trinity but at most a “duality.” Nowhere does the Bible equate the holy spirit with the Father

Answer 3

Trinity: Everyone agrees the Father is God.Thomas calls Jesus God,Paul in Titus calls Jesus God.Peter calls the Holy Spirit ,God in Acts 5.
Jesus was at the creation as was the Holy Spirit.Genesis 1 says "Let us create man in our image".Then John1 ,Collosians1,and Hebrews1 all say how God created everything through Jesus Christ.It was a conspiracy,they were all three in it together!
The trinity is like 1x1x1=1 God in three persons rather than 1+1+1=3 separate Gods.As for the Rapture,I Thessalonians 4:14 through 18 is the rapture or catching away of the church.The word "catching away" is "harpazo" in Greek,Jerome translated it to the Latin,"rapturos" from were we get the word Rapture.Rapture means to snatch violently or quickly away.That's where the awful word Rape comes from.
John 1 says "In the begining was the Word(Jesus) and the word was with God and the Word(Jesus ) was God.The same was in the begining with God."
Jesus was with God(the Father) and was God also.Three who's and one what,basically.

Answer 4

What's there to freak out about? It's just a question. I have great faith that Jesus is the only-begotten Son Of God. The only Son produced by the Father alone. That's why this Son is the firstborn of all creation, and by means of him all other things in heaven and on earth were created. Except for drawing attention to himself as being the Messiah God's Anointed One, and being The Son of God Jesus always said that worship should go to the Father. Matt. 4:10 The Bible tells us why Jesus drew attention to himself. Read Acts 10:34,38 that shows that the things he did proved that God was with him. Matt. 16:16-17; John 20:30-31. So no I don't feel guilty because I worship Jesus's Father and God and put implicit faith in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus.

Answer 5

Good Question. The trinity is a word that was invented to explain a biblical principle. I do not believe in a rapture other than we will meet Christ in the air at his return.
The doctrine of the trinity is throughout the Bible beginning with the first chapter of the first book through the end in Revelation.
God is a righteous God who does not call things that are unholy righteous and good. He does not agree with sin and the penalty of sin is death and must be paid.
God is all knowing and foreknew that man would sin.
Sin means separation from a righteous God.
God had a plan and it was to be a savior to his creation to bring us to his righteousness not to join us in our sin.
Our salvation depends on the trinity.
Without Jesus and the atonement he provided we are dead in our sin. Only a righteous and merciful God could atone for our sin.

Answer 6

The trinity doctrin started after 1610 when the King James Bible was translated into english.

In order to teach the trinity they had to remove God's name Jehovah and replace it with Lord.

The mis-translation of John 1:1 where it says the Word is God is not correct.

There is missing what is called the" definate
article " Not all Bibles translate John 1:1 as the word is God.

The Good News Bible translates this paragraph as "the word was through God."

The Living Bible translates this paragraph as
" The word is a God.

You will note that by taking Gods name out of the Bible you don't know who is talking to who as brought out at Psalms110, which says
" The Lord spoke unto the Lord sit at my right hand, What? is God talking to him self and saying he will sit at his own right hand?

Hardly,
It should say Jehovah said unto the Lord sit at my right hand until I put my enemies under your feet. (Paraphasing).

If you would like a complete explination of the trinity doctrin I would be happy to send you some information that has been researshed by Bible Scollars of all denominations and you will see they all come into agreement that there is no so called three in one God or that Jesus is God.

If you get an expounded dictionary you will find that the definition for Jesus name is
Helper of Jah" or" salvation of Jah ",
" Jah being short for Jehovah."

If they haven't taken it out of your Bible you should find it at Psalms 83:18, Ex 6:3,4,5,6, Psalms 68:4.



Hallelujah means Praise Jah not praise Jesus, You notice that the last three letters of the word is jah. Halle - lu - jah
Praise- ye-Jehovah

Sincerely yours,
Fred M. Hunter
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Answer 7

You won't find the word "trinity" in the Bible but you will find the very definition.

For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. 1 John 5:7

I and My Father are one. John 10:30

Then God said, “Let Us make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” Gen. 1:26

God came to earth in human flesh. God incarnated himself in human flesh.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:14

Jesus is the Word that became flesh. Jesus is the God-Man. God in human form.

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Phil. 2:5-8

But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. Gal. 4:4-5

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone. Heb. 2:9

For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Col. 2:9

First of all, the word "rapture" is found in the Bible, if you have the Latin Vulgate produced by Jerome in the early 400s. The Vulgate was the main Bible of the medieval Western Church until the Reformation. It continues to this day as the primary Latin translation of the Roman Catholic Church. Yet, as we shall see later, it was Protestants who introduced the word "rapture" into the English language from the Latin raeptius.[1] It was Jerome'��s Vulgate that translated the original Greek verb harpaz™ used by Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, which is usually translated into English with the phrase "caught up." The leading Greek Lexicon says that harpaz™ means "snatch, seize, i.e., take suddenly and vehemently."[2] This is the same meaning of the Latin word rapio "to seize, snatch, tear away."[3] It should not be surprising to anyone, that an English word was developed from the Latin which we use today known as "rapture."

In Europe, during the Middle Ages and Reformation periods, the theologians were from various countries and therefore spoke different native tongues. However, the single language of the church, both Catholic and Protestant was Latin. In fact, many of the first books written and published in the American Colonies during the seventeenth century were in Latin. For example, Cotton Mather'��s famous history of the American Colonies during the seventeenth century was written in Latin and called Magnalia Christi Americana, or The Great Works of Christ in America.[4] Because it was done in Latin it could be read throughout Europe by the educated class. Thus, it should not be surprising to anyone that many new words came into the English language from a Latin source, especially in the realm of theology. Rapture is just such a word.

While it is technically true that the word rapture does not appear in the English Bible, it does, nevertheless, appear in the Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible. Certainly the notion of a rapture appears many times in the Bible. Translators of the Bible into English could have been justified had they translated "caught up" in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 with the English word "rapture." They also could have translated it by the word snatch. We could just as easily call the rapture "the great snatch."

I have in my personal library at least 50 commentaries on 1 Thessalonians. Virtually all of them use the word "rapture" to describe the event in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. They do not appear interested in using it in a derogatory way nor do any of them go on an excursus about how this word does not appear in English translations. Most of these commentators do not hold to a pre-trib rapture view. They merely use the word because they know that it is one of the many Latin words that have made it into the English theological vernacular. Sorry that some have not yet heard.

The rapture does occur in the Bible, especially if you read the Latin Vulgate. However, there is no doubt that the Greek word harpaz™ in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, usually translated into English "caught up," conveys the rapture concept.

**fmhguitars-

For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 2 John 7

If only study the Bible not the nwt but an approved translation and not your watchtower books or magazines you would know that Jesus is God. The very Scriptures I posted make that crystal clear. To deny it makes you part of the spirit of antichrist.

Answer 8

some when translating from Greek to English. " with an anarthrous predicate preceding the verb, are primarily qualitative in meaning.can be translated " the word had the same nature as God. read John 1:18

Answer 9

your trinity you speak of was stolen from Celtic mythology as was the Triquertra symbol used in your churches. It is actually a goddess sign symbolizing the three ages of womanhood. mother, maiden and crone not the father son and holy ghost as you christians and catholics would have all believe.

Answer 10

Even in the first verses of the bible you see god in two persons, the spirit of god (holy spirit) and god the creater (father.) Jesus says I and the father are one which adds him in the equation. 3 persons in 1 god=Trinity