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Any examples in the Bible that GOD has ever forced HIS will on people or nations ?

( please cite chapter and verse and not vague references )

2007-07-27 11:31:52 · 22 answers · asked by dave777 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

"Yes, one example, book of Jonah."

( please cite chapter and verse )

Your answer is a vague reference.

2007-07-27 11:41:08 · update #1

"A smart person creates the proper ideas and scenarios and becomes amused when it happens, it is like having a magnifing glass and later touch the very ant which will become burnt, you are neither but feel the heat from both bodies. Neither the glass or the ant could say they were forced into anything, because they were having fun at the time, and liked being of help to the smarter fellow who gracefully planned this meeting. Will you believe the kid behind this could suffer the burns longer because he did not die from it and had more senses to his imagination, and at same time knew he would not do upon others against their will or as he would not do upon himself, even for humor or experience. Many evolved people are weary and cautious, so take it another step from common perception and you will have to rely on faith to know that bearded fellow is still young and did
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Please expand your explanation and insert some words that actually make sense.

2007-07-27 11:55:15 · update #2

"Yes he does if I posted them here you would never read it but I will tell you this.. every single nation that went against the lord is gone......but everything they made is still here for us to examine.."

( ABOVE PARTIAL QUOTE )

Thanks for determining in advance what I will and will not read.

Your post is a vague reference with nothing to click on and read.

2007-07-27 11:58:57 · update #3

"Nope nope nope.

God never forces. Everyone has a choice. "

IS THIS THE REAL GOD'S KITTY ???????

( there are about 3 different ones )

2007-07-27 12:03:57 · update #4

There are some examples in the Bible of GOD getting HIS WILL and HIS MESSAGE where HE wants it to be and to go.

HE does not force people to BELIEVE IN HIM.

I feel that HIS SALVATION MESSAGE will be heard by ALL PEOPLES before the final "CUT". Technically this has already bean done by radio, tv, and print.

dave

2007-07-28 02:11:53 · update #5

"In a way He does. He has stated His plans for the earth along with the necessary things we must do to be part of it. Just because most people will refuse to listen does not mean He will change His plans.

If they refuse, they are forced to die. Like in Noah's time, they was plenty of years to listen and obey; but, man is a stubborn creature, hard headed."

In the end if people refuse to believe in and accept JESUS CHRIST AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOR >>> GOD will allow them to have their way, even though it is one of eternal separation from THE GOODNESS OF GOD.

Romans 1:28-29 (New International Version)

28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,

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2007-07-28 11:41:30 · update #6

22 answers

Yes, He does. "Our God is in heaven; He does whatever pleases Him." Psalm 115:3.

If God does not get the response He needs, finally, after trying other things, He will force His will / cause everything to "work together for good for those who love Him and are called according to His purpose," Romans 8:28. (Notice the slash--He does both of these things at the same time.)

I think the best example is what happened to the Egyptians when Pharaoh wouldn't let Israelites go. (Found in all of Exodus. Specifics? Many... But here are a few: Exodus 6:1-8, 7:17-18, 8:1-7, 8:16-17, 8:20-30, 9:1-29, 10:1-19, 10:21-29, 11:1-9, 10:29-36, 14:4-31.) You could also see this "force" as God's discipline of nations.
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Sorry, I read your question as only a "plural" question. In other words--I read the word "people" to mean "more than one person at a time". Sorry... :-(

In the Bible we see that the Lord treats "individuals" differently than He does "nations" or groups of people. And You are right. He never forces an individual to accept Jesus as their Savior. His Holy Spirit "pulls" at our hearts though. If we turn it down...it's our own fault. Salvation is a free gift of God. If a gift is "free" it is not forced on someone. See: Romans 5:15-17, Romans 6:23, 2 Corinthians 9:15, Ephesians 2:8, Ephesians 3:7.

I heard it explained like this: Imagine I'm holding a million dollars in my hand. I offer it to everyone who reads this. I want--or will--that everyone here takes it and enjoys the benefits. However, there are many doubters who will never take it. Does that change my will to give them a gift? No. Is it my fault that they don't take the opportunity? No.

To apply the story above: God holds immense unimaginable treasure out to us, through our dear Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Some see how wonderful and glorious this free gift is and will enjoy the benefits. However, some people will never accept Him as their Savior. That doesn't change God's will that they come to know Jesus as their Savior. It is not God's fault that they don't accept the free gift He offers.

2007-07-27 13:09:06 · answer #1 · answered by oooooolala! 5 · 2 2

A smart person creates the proper ideas and scenarios and becomes amused when it happens, it is like having a magnifing glass and later touch the very ant which will become burnt, you are neither but feel the heat from both bodies. Neither the glass or the ant could say they were forced into anything, because they were having fun at the time, and liked being of help to the smarter fellow who gracefully planned this meeting. Will you believe the kid behind this could suffer the burns longer because he did not die from it and had more senses to his imagination, and at same time knew he would not do upon others against their will or as he would not do upon himself, even for humor or experience. Many evolved people are weary and cautious, so take it another step from common perception and you will have to rely on faith to know that bearded fellow is still young and did suffer more than most people here on earth, this only to speak well of his studies, evolution and royal attire.
Did you like this? hope so. By the way, do you believe now?
Good for you. Peace be with you.

2007-07-27 11:47:14 · answer #2 · answered by Manny 5 · 0 2

In a way He does. He has stated His plans for the earth along with the necessary things we must do to be part of it. Just because most people will refuse to listen does not mean He will change His plans.

If they refuse, they are forced to die. Like in Noah's time, they was plenty of years to listen and obey; but, man is a stubborn creature, hard headed.

2007-07-28 05:10:39 · answer #3 · answered by grnlow 7 · 1 0

To give this question the respect that is due, I am going to have to retrieve my trusty Sword, with my highlights and footnotes that I packed to kiip from harm during this remodeling project. I have several other, including my son's at hand, but this requires my own bible. There were few instances, that I do know. Never bring a knife to a Sword fight, and be ready in season and out. I was not.

2007-07-27 15:46:01 · answer #4 · answered by One Wing Eagle Woman 6 · 1 0

Well, in an effort to make people realize he isn't pleased with how the folks on earth were living, he did kinda flood the whole world. Then when the Egyptians wouldn't release the Hebrews, he started dropping plaques on them. I would call that forcing his will.

2007-07-27 11:39:56 · answer #5 · answered by Tom L 4 · 3 0

Yes, occasionally-well, I dunno. Depends on your definition of FORCE.
Is it FORCE or mighty persuasion to have your firstborn killed by God's Angel of Death? God had Moses tell Pharoah "let my people Go"--Pharoah said no--God visited Egypt with 10 Plagues culminating in Death of Firstborn of ALL Egyptian households: Is that FORCE or persuasion?
Reference Genesis 12:29
Is it FORCE or mighty persuasion to be swallowed by a Whale to get you to change your mind?
Reference Book of Jonah--And lighten up with this VERSE baloney; the entire book is 4 chapters long, about 10-11 verses per chapter and the WHOLE book is about a 5 minute read.
Is it FORCE or mighty persuasion to be struck blind for 3 days? If someone struck you blind for 3 days, then promised you sight if you listened, would you be willing to listen?
Reference Acts 9:3-12; Acts 22:7-13; Acts 26:14-20
You asked the question, now define FORCE?

2007-07-27 11:36:28 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

Jonah was asked by God to tell the Ninvites of their Judgement. Jonah ran. God brought him back in the belly of a fish.

2007-07-27 11:40:01 · answer #7 · answered by easyericlife 4 · 2 0

Anyone actually reading the bible knows that he does;

Commanding Israelites to kill neighboring tribes ( do you think that those men , women, children and animals that were being slaughtered willingly submitted to it?)

The bible is full of examples. All you have to do is read it.

2007-07-27 11:45:18 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

God has never forced his will or lent his hand to any part of the bible, I have been a catholic for over 50 years now and I know it the pope knows it and so dose all the top religious leaders know it, I simply cannot figure out why no one else knows it.

2007-07-27 11:39:34 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

He tries, beginning with Genesis, where he tries to limit the knowledge of Adam and Eve. But it is not God, but the preachers and teachers of religion that try to force their will on people. They call it God's will, but it is usually their own will that they are trying to force on others.

2007-07-27 11:38:48 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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