P = Premises
P1. If God were to exist, then that being would be all powerful, all-knowing, and all good (All PKG for short)
P2.If an all-PKG being existed, then there would be no evil.
P3. There is evil.
Conclusion. Hence, there is no God.
Note* This argument is deductively valid, so to disprove this arguement u must disprove one or more of the preceeding premises.
Note*Citing Biblical passages as a negation to this arguement is a logical Fallacy termed Circularity..that is if I did not beleive in biblical passages then citing such is to assume I believe in Biblical passages.
2007-07-27 09:16:17 · 17 answers · asked by Future 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
If an all powerful, all knowing, and all good god existed - - why wouldn't there be evil?
You kinda missed that step, fellow atheist. But that's okay, we atheists don't need logic on our side to win. We made our point!
2007-07-27 09:26:25 · answer #1 · answered by Cliffstout 1 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Hello and well your first problem is the same Holy Bible that tells about GOD tells what EVIL is they come from The Same Holy Bible so if i am to accept your words about evil then you should in fact accept a "it is written" about God right? By the way in order for Love to be Love it must have the right to say NO, the last two chapters says God wins Evil looses which side you on cause there is only two and you WILL be on one or the other, find out more free bible lessons
2007-07-27 09:22:34 · answer #2 · answered by wgr88 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Yes, it does disprove god's existence. However, logical arguments for and against the existence of god are a dime a dozen, and all are equally valid (worthless). The reason is that no one is under any obligation to accept your premises, and your conclusion is only valid for those that accept your premises. No one is under any obligation to disprove your premises. Since you are the one that presents them, it is up to you to defend them as valid, which is difficult given their subjective nature.
2007-07-27 10:10:27 · answer #3 · answered by Fred 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think you would have to prove there were such a thing as evil. To you something may be evil, to me it might be a way of life. If there were twenty people alive on this planet and they all decided that killing was acceptable does that make it evil. To you or me it might not make it morally right, but does it make it evil?
2007-07-27 09:30:35 · answer #4 · answered by Dr Paul D 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I would have to say yes. If god were all loving he would not play this horrible game were evil is allowed to exist and there is horrendous suffering. They say "he" works in ways we can't understand, but that is the flaw. Eventually we may understand all through science and studying natural law.
Suffering exists in nature without malice; why people are so flawed (intentionally cruel) remains a mystery, that is my goal in life to understand. I may not succeed, but it is the question that plagues me.
2007-07-27 09:23:54 · answer #5 · answered by crct2004 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
You have to define "evil" first and foremost.
Because no one has been able to do so yet. Evil is as subjective as musical taste or what you like to eat.
The fact that god doesn't exist, means he doesn't exist. No need for "evil" to enter into the equation.
2007-07-27 09:18:22 · answer #6 · answered by Yoda Green 5 · 2⤊ 2⤋
OK, you lost me on P2. Just because the all-PKG exists, why would there be no evil?
2007-07-27 09:36:38 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
You elevate yourself to the position of all powerful and knowing by assuming you know what an all powerful/knowing/loving being must do. How would you know what motivations God would have for permitting evil considering you are a limited-knowledge being?
2007-07-27 09:21:08 · answer #8 · answered by sharky 4 · 3⤊ 2⤋
unclear on the whole sovereignty issue eh?
Wickedness (evil) is the result of creatures making the challenge that God does not have the right to rule his creation. In fairness, God has allowed time from the institution of this challenge to pass. This is to allow his human creation a fair chance to prove they can live well without God's intervention. Time passing since then has proven that we can not. We have been allowed this time to try everyform of self-rule we can create, yet every form of government has failed, or is on the way.
Your simple analysis, totally ignores this fact.
2007-07-27 09:20:32 · answer #9 · answered by Tim 47 7 · 4⤊ 3⤋
Does the fact that Cold exists disprove that Warm exists?
Cold is the absence of warmth. Dark is the absence of light. Hatred is the absence of love. Evil is the absence of God.
Just because Cold, Dark, Hatred and Evil exist doesn't mean that Warmth, Light, Love and God, don't exist.
2007-07-27 09:23:17 · answer #10 · answered by Mabes 6 · 3⤊ 5⤋