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"its imaginary", "i don't believe" "It doesn't exist" common guys
you think you can basj believers, but in reality, you simply can't bring any valuable facts, proven that God doesn't exist :)

2007-07-27 04:26:50 · 28 answers · asked by steven25t 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

i won't use anything any words from the Bible. you want to proof: ok give me reason of exisiting life on this planet...and please don't bring old chewing "big bang" its silly.

give me reason for your existance (no stupid dad, mom and beer, bar> ****

2007-07-27 04:36:19 · update #1

khad: God and your Friend Charlie manson co-exist its just different sides of life. what you choose its your choice,

2007-07-27 04:37:41 · update #2

you guys are saying because you want to live as you like w.out thinking of consequwnces...that's usuually way of FOOLS

2007-07-27 04:41:39 · update #3

Lucky: i don't want to proof anything to anyone...you're constantly bashing people who believe in GOD, and the same time you can't prove its doesn't exist. that simple means you're CLUELESS. end of story

2007-07-27 04:43:42 · update #4

28 answers

give me proof that god exists without using the scripture

2007-07-27 04:29:46 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 8 2

Stevie boy, the moment you provide some proof that your god exists at all, anywhere besides in your head and on the pages of your watered down, mistranslated, fabricated Jesus fairy tale bible (or prove to me that the Hebrew Bible and the Old Testement are the same thing) then you'll get yourself a convert. Unfortunately, I have a copy of the Hebrew Bible, and it matches the Dead Sea Scrolls, and neither match the Old Testement in your bible. Your bible takes a lot of liberties to make things seem a certain way, and if you believe in the god of Israel, then you should be ashamed to call yourself a christian, as it is clearly a work of man used to decieve people and take them away from the god of Israel. But I don't expect you to research it yourself. You have your beliefs and don't question them except from people who will tell you what you want to hear. Good luck with that. I'm sure you'll be surprised to see ME in the world to come, and that there is no Hell, or Jesus.

If your god does exist, it isn't christian, nor did it have a son named Jesus. Once you learn how your religion has pulled the wool over your eyes in this regard, you'll start to look at things more rationally. Until then, you will be like a vine cut off from it's roots. I dare you to learn about Judaism from Jews, instead of on your own or with a christian study-group. I bet you won't do it. I bet you're too scared that you'll learn something that will make you see the world in a totally different way.

2007-07-27 04:36:09 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

In my opinion, the problem in this debate is that atheists are fundamentally inductive thinkers while theists are fundamentally deductive thinkers. This isn't always the case but I think it is most often.

What I mean by this is:

(Modern) atheists look at the world around them, make as few assumptions as possible and draw an induction about the world's nature. Since in the modern day we are able to attribute nearly all local macroscopic phenomena to a natural cause atheists see no reason to believe in a supernatural cause (including God).

Theists, on the other hand, start with a fundamental guiding principle (e.g., "The Bible is the Word of God", "All that is, was or ever will be came from Allah" etc) and apply that principle to all things.

Personally, I don't see either way as being "better" and in a few cases neither can be said to be better (e.g., the primary origin of the universe).

As I'm writing this, many atheists on the forum are drinking themselves into a stupor because it is true that logically it is impossible to prove that something doesn't exist. On the other hand, with something as pervasive and transient as God is said to be, it would be impossible to prove its existence too.

I think the one reason why atheists are so up in arms (especially with Christians) is the idea of missions (or the equivalent). Most atheists are satisfied in their belief but do not attempt to "convert" others as a result of their philosophy. But, when the religious attempt to convert them they brandish their idealogical weapons and will fight to the death.

2007-07-27 04:38:45 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

I'm agnostic myself but in the broad definition of atheism I'd be included. But I'm agnostic for the simple reason that you can neither prove or disprove god by factual means. I do lean toward disbelief but thats mainly because organized religion is so full of holes I like to be as far away from theist thinking as I can get.

2007-07-27 04:33:50 · answer #4 · answered by discombobulated 5 · 5 0

Burden of proof is on the one making a claim. Can you prove I wasn't abducted by invisible aliens and returned in time to the moment before my abduction? Do you believe it although you can't prove it didn't happen. I think you would want some proof from me before you would accept something like that. Same deal with the Deities postulated by religions.

2007-07-27 04:33:10 · answer #5 · answered by Zen Pirate 6 · 4 1

You're the one claiming there is a God, and therefore the burden of proof is on you. Why should I believe something if you bring no evidence? Can you prove that my invisible friend Charlie does not exist? Didn't think so. Therefore this proves that Charlie is real. See the fallacy of this argument?

It seems like you are afraid of the possibility of eternal damnation and it is causing you to disregard rationality.

2007-07-27 04:32:20 · answer #6 · answered by khard 6 · 8 1

Firstly the onus of proof is on the claimant to prove not others to disprove.
I will however give you one fact that I feel is very valid to your question.
The Earth is billions of years old and in all that time not one single solitary tiny shred of evidence (note just evidence not even proof) has come to light to show the existence of a god or gods.

2007-07-27 04:32:24 · answer #7 · answered by darwinsfriend AM 5 · 6 1

Volcanoes, tsunamis, floods, earthquakes and tornadoes that kill millions of innocent people.

Viruses, and bacteria that multiply in our bodies, killing millions of innocent people.

Wars and famines that kill and mutilate millions of innocent people.

Parasitic worms, protozoans and flies that infest millions of innocent people.

Genetic abnormalities and monstrous errors in genetic coding that lead to cancers that kill and mutiliate millions of innocent people.

Corporations and governments that follow greedy, short-sighted goals that devastate eco-systems and local economies, killing, dispossessing, or enslaving millions of innocent people.

Religions that preach intolerance and hatred, causing spiritual hardship, familial strife, international violence, and even death for millions of innocent people.

None of these would exist if there was indeed an all-knowing, all-loving omniscient god.

So if there is indeed some kind of divine, supernatural creator being (which I have never seen any evidence for), it certainly isn't the being described in the Christian Bible.

2007-07-27 04:38:03 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

well as there is no evidence that your god does exist then that is evidence that it doesn't

same goes for Santa and the tooth fairy

You're the one asserting something exists, the burden is on you to prove that it does.

atheists don't need to provide new arguments when you can't even satisfy the old ones

2007-07-27 05:07:12 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Ah, thank you. I was feeling a bit thirsty and wanted an excuse to start drinking before lunch.

The first prove a negative post I have seen today.

Cheers!

2007-07-27 04:36:25 · answer #10 · answered by Bahmo 3 · 3 0

If our answers are common, What is your answers proof. Unlikely story,You can't come up with proof other than bible rants.
You should have saved your 5 points idiot.
You needed them for church on Sunday, for when they ask how many Brownie points did you receive this week.

2007-07-27 04:34:45 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

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