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In contrast to my earlier question, one user said that Jesus died for our sins. Then what is the point of having the bible and its rules if we dont have to follow them?

There are some very big contradictions i am picking up - one part of the bible contradicting another - and many users contradicting each other

2007-07-27 04:25:58 · 25 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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<> i ve seen contradictions too but i learnt to move on a long time ago
There is one contradiction where the bible tells Abraham to sacrifice his only son Ismail when we know for a fact that Isaac was his eldest

2007-07-27 04:28:33 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 6

You do have a point. If Jesus died for sins, why follow the book and its rules? The problem, however, is that without the book, there would be no Jesus . . .

And yes, there's so much contradiction in the bible that there are around 3,000 Christian denominations & sects. It's becauase it can be read several different ways- in such a way that it has mass appeal. It's hard to convert a world to Christianity without making sure the guidebook for the religion has broad range appeal.

PS- I'm not a Christian.

2007-07-27 11:32:34 · answer #2 · answered by Meow 5 · 2 2

"Anyone who follows me will walk as I walked." "they must pick up their cross and follow me." "They will recognize you (christians) by your love." "Even the demons of hell know there is a God, and shudder." "By faith God justifies the wicked." There are many verses in the Bible that can directly or indirectly tie to this subject matter. (I don't find conflict, with them) Now I have no doubt that christians contradict one another-why else would there be so many denominations? (By the way I think there could be a practical purpose for our faults and inability to get along-We are much easier to corrupt under one heading) Anyway some christians still preach works, while they cry by faith alone. Some christians basically say nothing of works. Since all believers are "sealed with a deposit, gauranteeing their inheritance." That deposit being the Holy Spirit, i think the most appropriate way of looking at it is changing is inevitable, and anyone who truly knows Jesus I don't think can resist trying to follow him and changing along the way. So instead of being saved by works or works and faith, we are saved by faith that will work. Jesus is all the righteousness we need, don't ask me why, it is God's redemptive plan, but i like it, and can't see why others don't, God became personal which is what we all demand of Him. I do have a question though, and this question is not meant to have any other implications- then just the question itself. Why are we, humans, incapable of being morally perfect? I'm not talking physically, or intellectually-just doing the right thing. Is there anyone free to do what is completely right all the time?

2007-07-27 12:05:35 · answer #3 · answered by travis w 2 · 0 2

I have not read your other questions but this Q is answered around Romans 6 and 7. Paul says even back then some said "sin so grace may abound" then points out this would not be said by one who is truly justified and reconciled which is the accurate discription of what being "saved " is. That term "saved" is also a mis used term from when Jesus talked to Nicodemas in the book of John. The comforter (Holy Spirit made available to those who become justified and reconciled (to and by God) ) was not available until after Jesus first desended (into paradise or pergatory preached the truth and shut the place down taking those who followed Him when he ascended to the right hand of the father) then ascended to the right hand of the Father (Jahova, yhwh, Adonia etc.).

There is a truth with no contradiction but in order to find it one must "rightly divide" the Word (Bible ) . Problem is we like to go listen to preachers who are not held accountable and stay in office by popular demand, chosen by business people on boards, which is why the truth is not often told. People do not like hearing the truth becuz it means they must give up many things they want to believe in and then follow the "the way".

Becoming justified and reconciled is unfortunately for some the only way reading ones Bible makes sense. I had a masters degree and read it on occasion and never really understood, but once I accepted Jesus on faith then when I read it , it all made perfect sense.

Your question is a good one and it points to a big problem in what some would call Chistendom (christian dumb)

Here is your answer. When a person becomes justified and reconciled by an act of faith and a willingness to be "humble" (which properly translated means teachable not timid) then they receive the desire to be God's friend. In a relationship with a friend one likes to help their friend and God desires we all become justified and reconciled to Him by an act of faith. He created us for that sole purpose,,, to be His friend, and seems to me that means He wants lotsa friends.

Therefor as good friends we should have a graditude attitude and do righteous things so people will also want to be God's friend. This is doing good deeds. Since we have not been taught properly what good deeds are by our culture a good reference book to know what those are and how to perform them and where to get help doing them is by reading the Word of God which while it has many easily decernable directions also has lotsa good secrets which ony the J & R people see and understand. In one place the Word even says that these truths seem like folly to those who think they are wise, such as it would seem might be you.

note this is a long explanation which if reread will prove to be from a caring heart, and ask yourself why would someone you will never meet take such time to explain all this to you. I assureI have other things to do.

2007-07-27 11:54:20 · answer #4 · answered by icheeknows 5 · 0 2

It is not a good thing to make judgments from ignorance or misunderstanding.

Humility is desirable, necessary before understanding.

Else you will end up judging God - surely the most absurd and foolish and self destructive thing you can do.

Even your simple reason ought to be able to teach you that if in the wisdom of God He has given us His word there must be a point to it?

Or do you think you are wiser than God?

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.



Your problem is your heart.

If the heart is sinful it will rule the mind.

That is not too difficult to understand?

2007-07-27 14:45:18 · answer #5 · answered by James the less 4 · 0 1

the importance of the bible is for us to use as a guidebook in life. there are a lot of lessons to be learned in life and the bible has some great ways to get us through those lessons.
yes, Jesus died for your sins and mine. that isn't a "get out of hell free" card. you have to accept that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that He came to this earth just to die for us. Imagine that! Just because He did it doesn't mean we don't have to do anything in return. We need to ACCEPT it then we need to ASK for forgiveness for the sins we commit DAILY and we need to CHANGE our way of living. We can't keep making the same mistakes all over and over again. Repenting means trying your hardest not to do it again....there shouldn't be any contradictions with this.
If we don't follow the rules...we are sinning.
If we don't ask for forgiveness...and truly repent then we don't benefit from His death.
b/c He died for the sins we're committing daily. it's pretty darned easy to be a christian if you're willing to understand that.

2007-07-27 11:34:16 · answer #6 · answered by danielle:) 3 · 3 2

Jesus did die for our sins...that doesn't give us a license to sin all we want.

You're getting contradications because everyone believes something different, something that suits them. If you want the whole truth, I would suggest that you find it on your own (with GOD's help of course). Anyone with a Bible, a concordance, and GOD's guidance will find out what the truth really is. Also, a thorough knowledge of history also helps too. For example, Trinitarians believe that Christ is GOD. The Bible never says anywhere that Christ claimed to be GOD, not one verse in context. Another example, the mormon faith started in the 19th century. They have their own "book of mormon" which contradicts the Bible entirely. The list of contradictions go on and on. Catholics were the first to pick and choose what Christianity really is, and that was thousands of years ago.

Nick, you have to seek out the truth. If you want to know what the truth is, ask GOD. Trust GOD, not humanity (Proverbs 3:5).

Thanks and GOD Bless.

2007-07-27 11:45:10 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

The problem is we should be following them and not justifying sin. The bible does not contradict itself, the understanding of it causes contradiction. We learn and grow at different level and this is what you hear from different believers. It is not the bible, it is their understanding of the bible.....but there is no excuse for committing sin.

2007-07-27 11:33:24 · answer #8 · answered by I Wanna Know 3 · 3 3

Yes, Jesus died for our sins, however He did not die so we can continue in them. That makes Jesus' death a mockery. He died so that we could live a life free FROM sin- totally different than a life free TO sin. Jesus give us a free gift of salvation, because there is nothing that we can do to save us, however once saved we want to live a life that pleases God, and that means to sin less and less. If Christ died and we continue in our sin, and then expect to go to heaven, it becomes cheap grace- and it cost Him His life so it is not cheap.
Remember it is freedom FROM not freedom TO sin.

2007-07-27 11:54:39 · answer #9 · answered by AdoreHim 7 · 0 2

For the A $$ of Spades:

OK. There are thousands, but let's start with one a kindergartner could find:

1Ch 25:3 Of Jeduthun: the sons of Jeduthun; Gedaliah, and Zeri, and Jeshaiah, Hashabiah, and Mattithiah, six, under the hands of their father Jeduthun, who prophesied with a harp, to give thanks and to praise the LORD.

Count 'em. There are five names, not six. Couldn't your god find a chronicler who could count?

For more, check the sources or google "bible errancy".

2007-07-27 11:43:48 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Yes, Jesus died to atone for our sins. His precious gift of salvation is there for the asking. But you have to ask for it and believe you will receive it with a changed heart and lifestyle. Sure we sin, everyone does - we have a sin nature. But it's when He gave His life for us that he offers us as Christians forgiveness for our sins. When we repent, that means that we will try our very hardest not to commit that sin again and again again. It means you turn from that sin. It's not like you can intentionally go around wreaking havoc on this earth and continually just ask forgiveness for it. He knows our hearts - he searches our hearts. The scope of your final statement is too broad to address here. You might want to break it up. Cite your contradictions. That might be easier to address. katiefish <><

2007-07-27 11:33:48 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

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