IS IT TRUE THAT: "Satan does not really appear in the Bible until the New Testament "?

Question

I read this in an answer once and it has bothered me alot.

I know that Satan is a female and painted in the Cistine Chappel as half woman and half snake offering the apple - it is a well known fact that Satan is a Woman = BUT ..

I was thrown for a loop when I saw this in an answer and wanted to know how many people believe this = "Satan does not really appear in the Bible until the New Testament "???

Let us not count where Yahweh is sitting there with his sons and daughters and Satan comes before him ... in the book of IYYOB (Job) ... so - where are the other places she might be spoken of to help this guy out with his well researched statement; i.e., "Satan does not really appear in the Bible until the New Testament "?????

Certainly Satan had a legal Name Change from Lucifer and Halail (however it is spelled) - Lucifer was allowed to create and then lost that gift - and therefore she had to be named differently - but; I know of people that had name changes and they are the same person ... they did not change looks or anything - they still smell as bad or as great and still live in the same homes they lived in before they changed their names.

If Lucifer is Satan as many have said - is there no mention of Lucifer or the Adversary which is her title shown in the so called Old Testiment???

Hope that cleared up things - transparent as mud yet???

Answer 1

he appeared in the book of genesis. he was in the form of the serpent. if you're looking for him under that particular name though, read the first chapter of job. it's right there.

you'll find ''lucifer'' in the books of ezekiel, and isaiah.

lucifer and satan are the same entity. the difference is in the meanings of the names.

''lucifer'' means ''day star.'' most of the time (but not all the time) in the old testament, when a star is mentioned, it's a reference to an angel. lucifer was/is an angel, who was cast out of heaven for trying to exalt himself to be higher than the Most High. because of that, and because of what he did in the books of job and genesis, he was given a new name, ''satan,'' which means ''adversary'' or ''accuser.''

satan first appears in the book of genesis, but his rebellion is not told of until the book revelation.

other names for him are baal, beelzebub, and belial. they're all in the old testament.

edit- sorry. i didn't bother to read the rest of the question. lol. well, maybe some people know a little bit more now. i kinda doubt satan is female, given the fact that he's always referred to as ''he,'' but i guess it's not really relevant, since he's a spirit.

way- read ezekiel 28:12-18. lucifer is very clearly identified as the serpent in the garden. there's a double meaning, but it's there. check isaiah 14:12-14 for the reason why lucifer was cast out. revelation 12:4 to see who he took with him.

Answer 2

your analogies show that you have a very incomplete and inaccurate grasp of the subject. you are trying, badly, to reconcile words written thousands of years ago, with a 21 century mentality,though, to be honest, you only really stretch to the 19th century.
you hate women, too, don't you?
the satan, you fool, is known as 'the accuser', the one who argues against clemency, when judgement is occuring. there is no sex mentioned for the satan, however, the language used would imply a male, rather than a female speaking, on those occasions when they are credited with actually saying anything. they are not 'the devil'- which is a strictly christian invention, judaism never needed the concept, nor did we need the whole jc deal, either. you keep both of them, and enjoy both their company. you can populate your mind with any imaginary creatures you feel like!
you do remind me of a character in the 'bible' though. and it's an uncanny resemblance. you are the living image of the snake. even when he knew that he was wrong, he kept on trying to convince people otherwise. when the SISTINE chapel (it's so nice to see your level of education, you can't even spell the name correctly, or were you speaking of some other place?) was painted it was in allegory. and, by claiming allegory, was able to paint subjects that the church would have otherwise banned. do you actually believe that if a fat little guy with wings was painted, that there actually was a fat little guy, with wings? if so, then i'd suggest a long rest.if you claim 'faith' then know this, any 'celestial beings' are not in human form, any artist who has portrayed them in that manner, did so because they had no other frame of reference. these are not photographs, they are paintings, with exaggerations, and interpretations, and artistic license taken liberally.
back to your question, since your concept of the satan, is 'the devil', and the devil was solely a christian invention, it would appear in a christian writing, which was what you call, 'the new testament'

Answer 3

In the old testament, Satan is not the devil. Rather he is known as the adversary, lucifer etc.. he is more like a questioning friend. He is an angel in the court of the kingdom and not cast out. If you poppets read your bible carefully you will note that the snake is not identified as the devil. It is not until the new testament, which has more pagan elements like in revelation that satan becomes the devil and personifies evil.

Answer 4

Gen.3:1-5; Job 2:1-6; Rev.12:9 [ Dragon and serpent, Devil and Satan]. Isa.14:12-14[ World leaders are compared to this day star ]; Job 38:4-7; All angels are called morning stars and sons of God as Satan are with the sons of God in Job 2:1,2;
Eze.28:13-15[ created perfect the cherub angel anointed over Eden ]; Zech.3:1,2; Matt.4:1-11; Jesus refuses Satan's offer. Rev.16:22; Jesus is the bright and morning star.

Answer 5

The bible is not a factual book. Satan didn't really exist.

Take the accounts of middle eastern people (including Jews) of the wars in Iraq and Israel. Neither party can produce an objective account. And this is supposed to be the 21st century.

Now imagine how that middle eastern bunch 2000 years ago. Would you believe any account from the primitive middle eastern person?

Answer 6

I’ll try to answer that question from the Christianity mentality that presented it to you.

First we will look at the online resources available starting with the Online Etymology Dictionary which reads........

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=satan&searchmode=none

Satan
proper name of the supreme evil spirit in CHRISTIANITY (the ones who changed the origin Hebrew scriptures to the corrupt tongue of the Greeks), O.E. Satan, from L.L. Satan (in Vulgate, in O.T. only), from Gk. Satan’s, from Heb. Satan "adversary, one who plots against another," from Satan "to show enmity to, oppose, plot against," from root s-t-n "one who opposes, obstructs, or acts as an adversary." In Septuagint (Gk.) usually translated as diabolos "slanderer," lit. "one who throws (something) across" the path of another (see devil), though epiboulos "plotter" is used once.
"In biblical sources the Hebrew term the Satan describes an adversarial role. It is not the name of a particular character. Although Hebrew storytellers as early as the sixth century B.C.E. occasionally introduced a supernatural character whom they called the Satan, what they meant was any one of the angels sent by God (not Yahweh, mind you Satan is another term of God or one of the gods) for the specific purpose of blocking or obstructing human activity." [Elaine Pagels, "The Origin of Satan," 1995]

Now with this information in mind we can come to the understanding of the question, IS IT TRUE THAT: "Satan does not really appear in the Bible until the New Testament "?

Yes and no. In some KJV versions (which christians will only refer too) of the Book of Yahweh, however most online versions will use the title :Satan"

(back to the christian thought) This does not mean that Satan (the title of the demonic being) or more correctly the adversary did not exist at the time of the patriarchs and prophets as you have well stated giving the example in Iyyob.


Here is an example

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Job/Job002.html#top

Now, it is also a know fact that the beloved (by the world) name of Jesus does not appear in part one of the Book of Yahweh (Old Testament), when it is common knowledge that he was name after Mosheh's successor Yahshua Ben Nun or the Greek Joshua as the KJV uses which means Jehovah-saved. You will receive many excuses of this oblivious exposure of deception when you pose this quandary to them.

The name Yahshua means means Yahweh is salvation. Jesus means 'God is salvation,' for He will save (not Yahweh) but the god Jesus whom can not save anything. This information alone should make Christians wonder that if the name that they use (Jesus) is the right name needed to call on the be heard from our Heavenly Father Yahweh.

I may suggest reading Unveiling Satan! Her True Identity Revealed by Yisrayl Hawkins, Pastor and Overseer of The House of Yahweh for a better understanding of all the titles that Lucifer uses to continue to deceive the world into worshiping her.

Remember........

.......they used to speak long ago, saying: to receive an answer, ask at The House of Yahweh at Abilene; and that would settle a matter. - II Samuyl 20:18.

May Yahweh bless you brother.

Answer 7

what would be more accurate, is that the DEVIL does not appear until the new testament.

there is "the satan" in the old testament, but this is a job that is filled by an Angel, under God's command. "the satan" serves God to act as an opposing force.

in the old testament, "the satan" is NOT evil at all.

there is also no eternal hell mentioned whatsoever in the old testament.

Answer 8

see this page:

http://www.elca.org/questions/Results.asp?recid=25

the word stn appears three times in the OT, and there is nothing about the description that suggests he is in opposition with God. God allows, practically orders Satan to torment Job. As to the word "Lucifer", to which Ezekiel and Isaiah refer, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer

and indeed only Revelation goes into detail of describing the devil as a snake. So saying that the devil is in Genesis is not really fair.

Most of modern ideas about the devil and hell come not from the bible at all though, but from Dante and Milton.

Answer 9

Job is an occurrence, certainly. Satan is mentioned by name in Zechariah 3, but that could be an English transliteration of something else. He's definitely not a fixture until the NT, but I can't go as far as saying he's never mentioned in the OT.

Answer 10

No. Satan first appears in Gen. chapter 3:1 as the voice behind a snake that deceived Eve into going against God's simple order not to eat the forbidden fruit.