If you research this , you will find it is nonsense . For instance look up Horus on the Internet . You will find that nothing said about him in this video is true . Do a search for zeitgeist debunked . It is all lies not facts . At least part one is , which totally destroys the credibility for part 2 which actually has some fact . Part 3 again is nonsense that was circulating right after 911 and proven to be false at that time . This is a bunch of crap thrown together with a few facts in the center and it will never wash . Don't believe me look it up yourself.
2007-07-26 08:14:48
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answered by opinionated 4
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No. If people would stop believing Zeitgeist and start researching things for themselves, they would find that Zeitgeist is full of lies.
For some reason, whenever I post this type of answer, I always get thumbs-down, even though I've studied mythology for twenty years. When I saw the first twenty minutes of Zeitgeist, I thought to myself, "HOW could anyone believe this, when all they have to do is pick up a book once in awhile to find out that it's not true?"
Horus, for example:
1. Was NOT born of a virgin. His mother was Isis, not Isis-Meri, and his father was Osiris. The way the myth goes is that Osiris was killed by Seth, and his body was divided into fourteen pieces. Isis, overcome by grief, recovered all of the pieces, except for Osiris's phallus. She made a phallus (I can't remember out of what) and had sex with Osiris's body.
2. Did NOT have twelve disciples. According to the myth, he had FOUR disciples, and may have been accompanied by sixteen humans.
3. Was NOT crucified. He was killed by Seth, though the method of his execution is disputed. There are several different versions of it.
4. IS said to have been resurrected daily. Horus was considered to be represented by the sun, while Seth was represented by the moon. Each day, Seth and Horus engage in battle. In the evening, Seth would overcome Horus. In the morning, Horus would be "resurrected" and triumph over Seth.
As for the Mithras myth, it WAS popular around the time of Christ. However, the oldest writings of Mithras (dating back to about two hundred years before Christ), do not even CLOSELY resemble the life of Jesus. In about the second century, however, Mithraism changed, and the story of Mithras started to resemble that of Christ.
So, in answer to your question, NO. It is NOT true. All a person has to do is research Christianity and ancient mythology to find that.
However. Some pagan elements WERE added into Christianity starting in the 4th century. For example, Jesus's birthdate was NOT December 25th, but they chose that day to coincide with the winter solstice.
But Christianity in itself is NOT a direct or indirect "plagiarism" of ANY other religion.
Edit: So the question is, is Christianity a direct plagiarism of the Zodiac? No, not really. What do the twelve disciples represent? Nothing. They were actual people. But why did Jesus choose twelve? I don't know.
The idea of Jesus being the "sun" was added later, most likely in the 4th century. There was no hint of this before that. None of the earliest Christians mentioned it.
As for the fish being a symbol of early Christians, that dates back to the first century, soon after Jesus had died, been resurrected, and ascended. Christians used it to identify each other, because they were so heavily persecuted. It was code for, "I'm a Christ-follower. Are you?" So why was the fish used? There are a couple of explanations for this, but it's possible that neither are true.
The first is that it was used because Jesus told His disciples to be "fishers of men."
The second is that THAT is what Jesus was drawing in the sand when He told the Pharisees to "let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Perhaps it's both.
However, the Jews closely guarded their religion, so that NO outside influences could find their way in. So the idea that they copied any part of Egyptian mythology is preposterous.
2007-07-26 08:26:35
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answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7
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Every religion has connections to ancient metaphorical traditions. It does not make the psychological metaphors obsolete or useless.
All religions and mythologies are related to rebirth of one's "heroic" or authentic being.
2007-07-26 08:06:53
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answered by MysticMaze 6
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I didn't click the link, but you mean Jesus as the Sun, in the midst of the 12 Apostles/Signs? That's a standard old yarn, but I doubt whether the connection was actually intended by the originators of the Christian myth.
2007-07-26 08:06:34
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answered by jonjon418 6
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