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into the homeland security funding bill in a vote of 89 to 1?

...just didn't see any mention of either here...

what do you think?

2007-07-26 07:35:53 · 12 answers · asked by DAR 7 in Politics & Government Immigration

border security link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070726/pl_nm/usa_immigration_dc_2

Hazelton law link :
http://cbs3.com/local/local_story_207141038.html

2007-07-26 07:40:32 · update #1

Miss LA, I immediately determined that I had to look closer at the homeland security funding bill, myself....

2007-07-26 07:56:06 · update #2

anon - I have to read the opinion, although I may not bother at the lower court level (I've seen the various arguments). The one thing I thought might be unconstitutional was the housing. What if they got it wrong and someone took 30 days to clear up paperwork? Saying a kid can't go to school, or an applicant can't have a job for that long is one thing. Saying they have nowhere to live is tougher. Housing has always been protected specially. However, this opinion SEEMS to turn on federal preemption, and I don't know that I agree with that. I'll read the appellate opinion, in any event.

2007-07-26 07:58:58 · update #3

Here is a Hazelton story link with an internal link to the actual decision if you are interested.

http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Hazleton_immigration_ordinance_struck_down.html

2007-07-26 08:01:25 · update #4

Amazon Princess - thank you very much. I will look into those. I am truly glad that Feinstein passed her amendment "which would prohibit sexual abuse of prisoners held in custody at the direction of or under an agreement with the Federal Government", per your link, since she seemed unclear whether sexual abuse of prisoners was currently somehow legal....

2007-07-26 08:05:05 · update #5

me - my understanding is that this would strengthen border security, but with what AP wrote there are other amendments I want to look into before I jump to conclusions. Mind you, Bush is saying he will veto the whole thing, so they are trying to build a coalition to overcome a veto.

2007-07-26 08:06:54 · update #6

12 answers

Senate Schedule
Thursday, July 26, 2007
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Pending:

The Senate will next convene at 9:30 a.m. Thursday, July 26, after adjourning at 8:12 p.m. Wednesday, July 25.

At 9:30 a.m., the Senate will be in Morning Business for 60 minutes, with the first 30 minutes under Majority control and the second 30 minutes under Minority control.

Following Morning Business, the Senate will resume consideration of H.R. 2638, the Homeland Security Appropriations bill.

Pending to H.R. 2638 is Byrd/Cochran substitute amendment #2383. Pending to Byrd/Cochran substitute amendment #2383 are the following amendments:


Landrieu amendment #2468 (U.S. policy re: terrorism);
Grassley amendment #2444 (immigration status verification);
Schumer amendment #2416 (ID card technology);
Schumer amendment #2461 (aviation security);
Schumer amendment #2447 (Securing the Cities initiative);
Schumer amendment #2448 (nurses)
Dole amendment #2462 (section 287g of Immigration and Nationality Act)
Dole amendment #2449 (training funding in the Immigration and Nationality Act)
Grassley amendment #2476
Roll call VOTES are expected throughout the day.

Wednesday, July 25’s Business:

During Wednesday’s session of the Senate, 1 roll call vote was conducted:

Sustained, 52-44: Ruling of the Chair with respect to germaneness of Graham amendment #2412, to Byrd/Cochran substitute amendment #2383 to H.R. 2638, the Homeland Security Appropriations bill. The amendment was ruled out of order due to legislating on an appropriations bill. The amendment would direct the President to “establish and demonstrate operational control of 100 percent of the international land border” with Mexico and hire 23,000 Border Patrol agents within 2 years. It would provide $3 billion in emergency funding for: Hiring 500 more Customs & Border Protection officers per year (FY08-12), 1200 more Immigration & Customs Enforcement agents per year, 200 investigators to combat aliens smuggling, 50 Deputy U.S. Marshals, 23,000 Border Patrol agents hired, trained, and reporting for duty, 4 Unmanned Aerial Vehicles & 105 ground-based radar and camera towers, 300 miles of vehicle barriers & 700 miles of border fencing, and a permanent end to the “catch-and-release” policy with 45,000 detention beds.

5 Amendments to Byrd/Cochran Substitute Amendment #2383 to H.R. 2638 Agreed to by Unanimous Consent

Feinstein amendment #2386, which would amend Title 18 of U.S. Code to make technical corrections to the new border tunnels any passages offenses;

Feinstein amendment #2387, as modified, which would prohibit sexual abuse of prisoners held in custody at the direction of or under an agreement with the Federal Government;

Cornyn amendment #2430, which would provided for the control of Arundo donax, commonly known as “Carrizo Cane”;

McCaskill amendment #2425, as modified, which would require the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish and on the website of the Department of homeland Security a link to the website for the Office of the Inspector General for the Department of Homeland Security; and

Clinton amendment #2390, as modified, which would require that all contracts with the Department of Homeland Security that provide award fees link such fees to successful acquisition outcomes.


4 Items Passed by Unanimous Consent:
H.R. 1538, the Wounded Warrior Assistance Act, as amended with the Wounded Warrior provisions, and Section 601 military pay increases in H.R. 1585, the Defense Authorization bill;

S. 1716, a bill to amend the U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007;

S. 1877, a bill to amend Title IV of U.S. Code and for other purposes; and

H.Con.Res.190, a concurrent resolution authorizing the printing of how our laws are made.

**My jaw dropped when I read that part! Sexual abuse of prisoners illegal, let me think hmmm oh so it was legal? lol. scary isn't it**

2007-07-26 07:59:50 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I was wondering where you were. I was actually getting my immigration news from Yahoo news and the LA times, rather than your questions. LOL. I was disappointed and glad to see that they will appeal. I'm more concern about the new immigration bill and Feinsteins ag bill. After you told me that H2A visa was unlimited, I went back to look at it, and found it's true. I'm disturbed at why that Agbusiness is claiming to have difficulties finding labor despite of this visa. I'm also concern of the change of farm subsidies. I read Kennedy is still scolding everyone on failing to pass the last bill.

2007-07-26 18:16:23 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I am sorry to see the law being voided, but it was to be expected. It is outrages that some types of amnesty, such as instate tuition for illegals as old as 30, is being tucked away in a bill that is not only a must pass, but makes a mockery of border security. Let me get this straight, laws that are enforced to restrict or stop illegal immigration for the good of the USA citizens in cities like Hazelton are void because immigration is a federal responsibility but when cities like New Haven, Ct pass laws that give certain rights to the illegals that is not considered over riding federal immigration law. I hope someone files a law suit challenging the right of cities and states to validate illegals rights such as in-state tuition, Id's such as in New Haven, and sanctuary cities. I bet LaRaza, ACLU, and such will not be bringing this suits, but they will use their heeled backers to fight the American middle to have their rights protected.

2007-07-26 08:04:23 · answer #3 · answered by jean 7 · 4 0

It's illegal to protect yourself and your community. Bush, Hillary, and Obama are very proud today.

If Arizona can pass these laws so can PA. If the federal government will not protect it's citizens our citizens will not stand for that.

Look around what is happening in Germany, Italy, and other parts of the world like it did in South Africa. The dogs of war are waking up. I hear it place after place I go on both sides.

2007-07-26 09:00:10 · answer #4 · answered by yars232c 6 · 2 0

Is the Senate trying to deflect attention from AgJobs?
Trying to get a pat on the back while continuing to sneak past legislation.
I hope Hazelton wins on appeal, for the benefit of their citizens.

2007-07-26 11:10:48 · answer #5 · answered by JustSaySo 3 · 1 0

Hazleton shocked the beejeevers out of everyone, a small city in Pennsylvania stood up to some serious special interest. I look for them to continue on and fight it but it does get expensive.

As for putting border security in with homeland security? makes sense to me but this administration will spend tons of money to spy, wire tap, and other forms of security but they completely ignore the border(s) well unless amnesty comes with it (then they break their promise and ignore the border anyway)...

2007-07-26 08:18:43 · answer #6 · answered by Rabid Frog 4 · 2 0

I agree with you that this merits further attention on ALL our parts.I really don't trust much anymore where they are sneaking things in on every bill.Back door politics has never been worse than the last few years from what I've seen lately.Thanks for the heads up !

2007-07-26 09:23:03 · answer #7 · answered by Dog Tricks 4 · 2 0

I'm guessing the border security money will go to their corporate friends and will not 'secure the border'.

I don't see how the Hazelton law could possibly be construed as unconstitutional.

2007-07-26 07:49:25 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

I'm sorry about Hazelton's law being voided but they'll dispute that and go again. I'm so cautious of this administration that I hesitate to be pleased when they put something through as I'm afraid they'll have a hidden agenda in anything that passes. Sad when you no longer trust your own government, Isn't it?

2007-07-26 07:47:26 · answer #9 · answered by Ms.L.A. 6 · 7 0

How can Hazelton's law be unconstitutional but what New Haven is doing is OK? Seems like this should be reversed!

2007-07-26 09:19:55 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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