Catholics....don't you think Catholicism puts the bible aside?

Question

I've read the bible because of my own interests but don't any catholics out there agree that Catholic Education ignores the bible too much in the sense that most of what is given to children (who should not be taught religion in my opinion) is basically Catholic Tracts, Workbooks, mechanical monotone masses, and rantings from teachers, but basically no bible study.

BTW I was raised catholic and atteneded Catholic School for 5 years.

angelktb5684 - you should be very careful before opening your mouth without nothing what your talking about. I actually was born and raised in NYC, went to Catholic Schools in Manhattan and the Bronx, I TAUGHT CCD, and went on retreats at MT Saint Michael,, Spellman, St Rays, and was never forced to read the bible, we read NYC Archdiocese Catholic Tracts and Workshops.

Don't assume things, it makes you look uneducated

tur b - are you kidding me? I clearly stated that i studied the bible on my own. and if YOU studied the bible more you'd learn that the everything the church does is NOT based on the bible. And could you please explain how my opinion contradicts the bible whent he bible (Jesus himself) clearly warned us about religions like catholicism? I really hate responses like your cause I bet you thought you were so cleaver when you posted it.

tur b - I'm not going to get into a back and with you as your not really worth it so I'll close with this, I didn't post this to feed my ego, I did it to ask a question based on my past experiences and hear people's opinions. NONE of my observations (not opinions as you say) were ridiculous , they were things I saw growing up in the catholic church.

You are simply talking out of your as.s, read what you've said so far and you'll see what i'm talking about

Look .. this is my last edit, Please STOP, if you don't agree with me .... THEN don't f*cking respond and answer other people questions. Tur B I imagined you were going to mention spelling at some point or another, I'm not wasting time with you anymore, you're petty.


Angelktb5684 -
even when I was in school there were flyers for bible study and at the schools I went to, which sometimes meant 10-15 out of the whole school reading the bible and alot of times simply goofing off, which is an example of what alot of catholics do. If YOU and those you know were serious about the bible then that's one thing, and I'm happy for you, but don't assume what you see is what the rest of the catholic church does.

Answer 1

Yes
My wife was told never to read the Bible. When she did read it she left the Catholic church and found a real Christian church.

Answer 2

Well obviously you didn't live in NYC. The Archdiocese here made me read the entire Bible in CCD and HS. Learned a lot about Christianity & Catholicism. Hence one of the reasons why I am now Wiccan!

EDIT:

How does it make me look uneducated? You didnt state you LIVED in NYC. That's misinformed, not uneducated. Get your vocabulary right. Every single catholic school in NYC I have heard of makes their students read the entire Bible now-a-days. How long have you been out of the system? My sister is CURRENTLY going through the OT in her 2nd to last year of CCD. My best friend's brother is attending St. Joseph by the Sea HS in Staten Island, NY and is discussing the differences between each of the books of the NT. (Same thing in Moore Catholic). Go to almost ANY church within the diocese and you will find a flyer for a Youth Group which has Bible Study. I was in one at my parish as well as about every other current Catholic I know.
I do know what I am talking about Sir. I have evidence right in front of me.

One More Edit, Sorry:

I agree that ALOT of Catholics goof off in church (as you put it).Another reason I left. But to be fair you did ask Catholics as a whole to answer this question, not just those who agree with what you think. I do hope you find what you're looking for though. Have a good weekend! :D

Answer 3

No, not at all. I have taught religious education to 1st graders, 4th graders and high school students. While we do use workbooks, most work sheets include the bible. With the high school students we used the bible almost every class. My son has been taught how to read a bible in his religious education classes. And at mass the readings are from the bible and if you have a good priest you will learn a great lesson from the stories in the bible.

Catholics don't open it every 2 seconds like some fundamentalist religions. But Catholicism also teaches to think for yourself, that God gives us free will, and that the people are the foundation of the church. I have been inspired to read the bible, received a bible for confirmation, and there are often bible study groups that meet weekly in the churches I have been a member of.

Answer 4

if you were raised Catholic you should've studied more about it to know that everything that the Church do is Biblical. your own opinion just contradicts the Bible, which results to your misinterpreting it.

edit: just like you maybe, you also thought you're all so clever when you posted this ridiculous opinion of yours.

by the way, you seem so affected with the responses of people here that contradicts your opinion that you keep on mispelling the words, or do you really just spell that way?

wow, such hateful words have been spewed from your mouth. keep reading and misinterpreting the bible, just don't pass your opinions about Catholicism as facts.

and just in case you don't know, without the Church, there would be no Bible for you to read because no one will preserve it. and don't say that God preserved it, because God used the Church as an instrument to preserve it. just a suggestion, try reading history too.

Answer 5

Nope. Protestants claim the Bible is the only rule of faith, meaning that it contains all of the material one needs for theology and that this material is sufficiently clear that one does not need apostolic tradition or the Church’s magisterium (teaching authority) to help one understand it. In the Protestant view, the whole of Christian truth is found within the Bible’s pages. Anything extraneous to the Bible is simply non-authoritative, unnecessary, or wrong—and may well hinder one in coming to God.

Catholics, on the other hand, recognize that the Bible does not endorse this view and that, in fact, it is repudiated in Scripture. The true "rule of faith"—as expressed in the Bible itself—is Scripture plus apostolic tradition, as manifested in the living teaching authority of the Catholic Church, to which were entrusted the oral teachings of Jesus and the apostles, along with the authority to interpret Scripture correctly.

In the Second Vatican Council’s document on divine revelation, Dei Verbum (Latin: "The Word of God"), the relationship between Tradition and Scripture is explained: "Hence there exists a close connection and communication between sacred Tradition and sacred Scripture. For both of them, flowing from the same divine wellspring, in a certain way merge into a unity and tend toward the same end. For sacred Scripture is the word of God inasmuch as it is consigned to writing under the inspiration of the divine Spirit. To the successors of the apostles, sacred Tradition hands on in its full purity God’s word, which was entrusted to the apostles by Christ the Lord and the Holy Spirit.

"Thus, by the light of the Spirit of truth, these successors can in their preaching preserve this word of God faithfully, explain it, and make it more widely known. Consequently it is not from sacred Scripture alone that the Church draws her certainty about everything which has been revealed. Therefore both sacred Tradition and sacred Scripture are to be accepted and venerated with the same devotion and reverence." http://www.catholic.com/library/Scripture_and_Tradition.asp

Answer 6

Of course Catholicism puts the bible aside.

My wife is a devout Catholic. I've never tried to shake her faith. But she wanted to send our son to a Catholic school. I checked their curriculum and was shocked. Even the MATH books hammer religion into their brains! It's ridiculous. Needless to say, this was a problem between us. Fortunately, I won out and he's attending a private secular school.

I'm glad you mentioned your opinion that children should not be taught religion. This may be the single most heinous sin parents perpetrate against their children. Our spiritual convictions are intensely personal and private. We need to decide what those convictions are ON OUR OWN. Taking a child, in his most formative years, and "indoctrinating" his defenseless and immature mind to ANY religion is a crime against humanity. By teaching a child concepts he can't understand, you pretty much assure he never will. It's a rare freethinker who can rise above this brainwashing.

If you attended Catholic school for 5 years, then you know: the Catholic church is papist. It's also polytheistic (despite its convoluted rationale) and idolatrous.

If the Bible is divinely inspired, why do Christians need the "traditions", rituals and dogma of the Catholic church? What? Is the Bible not divinely inspired enough? A hierarchy of priests decided it needed further flourish?

There is Christianity and there is Catholicism and NEVER the twain shall meet.

By the way, the Roman Catholic Church would like to remove the "Roman" from its name. But the fact is, Emperor Constantine made the fledgling religion of Christianity the state religion of the Roman Empire for POLITICAL reasons. He brought the Roman Catholic Church into being by convening the Coucil of Nicea in the year 325 A.D.

As the church solidified its grip and power, intellectual and scientific pursuits were limited to the church's narrow world view. The Dark Ages were a direct result. This alone should be plenty of reason to make the separation of church and state an axiom of freedom . . . EVERYWHERE and for ANY religion.

P.S.
Forget about tur b

Answer 7

Absolutely not.

All Catholic teachings are grounded in Scripture. This may not be shown line for line to seven year olds but much is shown to middle or high school students.

Catholic religious education is age appropriate. About teaching with age appropriateness in mind, the Catholic Church states:

Whoever teaches must become "all things to all men" (? I Cor 9:22), to win everyone to Christ. . . Above all, teachers must not imagine that a single kind of soul has been entrusted to them, and that consequently it is lawful to teach and form equally all the faithful in true piety with one and the same method!

Let them realize that some are in Christ as newborn babes, others as adolescents, and still others as adults in full command of their powers

Those who are called to the ministry of preaching must suit their words to the maturity and understanding of their hearers, as they hand on the teaching of the mysteries of faith and the rules of moral conduct.

For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 23 and following: http://www.nccbuscc.org/catechism/text/prologue.htm#23

With love in Christ.

Answer 8

I think children should be taught about God, but in reality I think they know him better than we do, after all they came from him more recently than we did.
What you said about Catholics I think is true. I was raised Catholic and all we learned was the Catholic religion not the Bible. For First communion and Conformation we learned memorized answers to questions, we learned memorized prayers. We did not learn about a personal relationship with God through Christ or that we could talk to him in prayer any way we felt like it, like a friend. Thank God my parents sent us to other churches as well. Even my brothers have left the Catholic church and one became a pastor at a non denominational church.

Answer 9

Not true. Catholics are taught that we are to have a love and esteem for the Bible. "Ignorance of Scripture, is ignorance of Christ." Go to any Catholic parish, read the bulletin, and you will find Bible Study groups.

Answer 10

the tracts, workbooks, and rantings usually have some sort of biblical base.

when i was in ccd, the work books had a story from the bible, but written in simpler english, the passage was at the bottom(like book chapter:verse)


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Answer 11

No considering what is teached is bible based. The readings come directly from the bible verbatim. So no, I don't believe so. I know in some religions you bring your bible to service and go by that...but if you took the readings and opened up the bible to the same they would basically read exact.